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There was something about this on Watchdog recently and IIRC the two important points raised were that in order to comply with BPA regulations, the notice they put up in the car park must have a full postal address rather than a PO box, and they are not allowed to refer to a 'fine' or a 'penalty' as this is a private company and have no power to fine or penalise people.

I think that's a bit of a misleading comparison though Viking. Uncovering corrtuption at the highest level of such a powerful world organisation is surely a worthy reason for any journalist / news agency to dig a little deeper and perhaps cut a few corners, because it is very much in the public interest that these things should be exposed. Hacking the voicemail of the families of murder victims is not just illegal, it is also extremely unethical and very, very distasteful.

http://www.avaaz.org/en/murdoch_messages_2/ I recommend everyone signs up to this. The fact that the government is pushing ahead with this deal despite the recent revelations and major concerns over the validity of the consultation process is, to my mind anyway, possibly the most alarming thing about this whole episode.

So it is now confirmed that as CEO of News International, Rebecca Brooks will lead the investigation into this affair herself. Given that she was editor in charge of the NOTW at the time this allegedly took place, isn't that like asking Hitler to investigate Nazi war crimes?

It's quite sad but true that advertising is what makes the world go round these days. It was only because as couple of major sponsors raised concerns that Bernie Ecclestone caved in to public opinion and cancelled the Bahrain grand prix, otherwise I'm sure he would have pressed ahead with it.

Is anybody actually the least bit surprised by this?

My parents took me to one as a child while we were on holiday in Spain. I only have a vague recollection of it as I would have been very young at the time. I personally believe that to call it a bullfight is a bit of a misnomer really. It suggests that the bull actually has a remote chance of winning. Execution would be a more fitting description.

Hmmm, sounds delicious. I've just made some blackberry vodka using the same, slightly more simple, method as sloe gin; it should be ready in about 5-6 weeks. After the success of the raspberry and blueberry ones I did a while ago, I'm hoping this will be equally as good.

I've just booked tickets for me and my GF to go to Bestival on IOW in september. Normally I try and avoid the bigger festivals (too many people, long walk between carpark/campsite/arena, too much corporate sponsorship, overcharging for drinks/food etc..) but the lineup for Bestival this year is immense with lots of variety for everyone. Have a look for yourself.

Sorry I have to disagree...

Maybe I missed the thread, but I don't ever seem to recall anybody on this forum calling for any Tories to be executed Delldays. You just love those strawmen don't you. And I also want to echo what Viking Warrior said. Some really moronic comments on a thread about somebody who has lost his life prematurely and left a family behind. Some people have no shame.

Why does it seem odd? Maybe he just liked live music. I've been to a few festivals in my time and there are always people from all walks of life and of all ages. The fact that nobody is excluded is one of the great things about them. You just don't like the idea of a senior Tory in his 50s associating himself with thousands of liberal people.

I would immediately discount them as they are awarded by the industry and do not relate to actual public opinion, especially the Brit. I mean, this is the awards council that once gave best British dance act to the f***ing Sugababes for crying out loud. Awards like this mean absolutely nothing and only serve to inflate the egos of those receiving them. But you're right in that the beauty of music is that there is something for everyone. If we all had exactly the same tastes then imagine how bland and boring the world would be.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-13918856 WTF!?!?

I guess you never saw him parodying himself on Extras with Ricky Gervais then. Agree about the last bit though - very dull, uninspiring, middle-class, dinner party music. My mate joked that with them and U2 on the lineup this year, they should have renamed the mainstage as the 'Music On Hold' stage

http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/blog/article/210811/police-reveal-ryan-dunn-was-drunk-as-macabre-thieves-steal-mementos.html Confirmed - twice the legal limit. I feel sorry for any loved ones he leaves behind, and I know that conventional wisdom says it is wrong to speak ill of the dead, but he brought it all on himself the stupid tw*t

How do you arrive at that conclusion. It is just as likely he was stabbed inside the property, at which point the other burglars said "alright we're leaving" and carried him out. Anyway, I don't believe this was just a straight-forward burglary. If it was then why would it take four of them?

So you claim to be 'championing rights for disabled people' yet you can't answer a direct question about why you think the clip of Paul Maynard is funny. Do you really have nothing better to do with your life than wind people up on forums dune?

That may be true, but I bet it would deter quite a few as well though.

No, and I am not advocating that it would be. But if you read the rest of my post regarding the mindset that I would be in in that situation given the human instinct, it is not unreasonable to expect that somebody might lash out and become violent if you have broken into their house, and I am arguing that that person's actions should not be considered criminal in those circumstances.

The way I look at it... if you break into somebody's house with the intention of stealing their valuables, the second you cross that threshold you have declared yourself outside of the law IMO, therefore you waive all of your societal rights to be protected by that law which you so blatantly disregard. I had my mountain bike stolen once - came out from where I was working expecting to ride home only to find someone had somehow broken the lock and taken off with it. I was so angry that if I had caught the little c**t in the act I do not know what I would have done to him in all honesty. It is one of the only times in my life I have ever really felt pure rage, and it took me about an hour to calm down. If I caught someone in my house trying to swipe my stuff then I couldn't honestly say that I would remain calm and call the police - that would probably be the last thing on my mind. The human 'fight or flight' instinct would kick in and any injuries the burglar might receive would be down to my diminished responsibility for my actions. In this particular case, at least there is one less thieving scumbag on the streets of Salford now.

From the linked BBC article... So much for honour amongst thieves eh?

It was Gordon Bennett Brown who de-regulated the banking sector in the first place. Had that not happened there would surely have been much stricter controls in place to prevent the large investment banks from being so reckless. Not saying that the crash wouldn't have happened at all - clearly we would still have experienced some fallout from US banking sector - but removing any government regulation from the equation was a massive mistake IMO, and one that Mr Clown must take full responsibility for.

Ah, you see this is how the coalition works... Any good ideas are credited to the Tories and any bad ideas are blamed on the Lib Dems and Clegg in particular.

As Saintandy pointed out in his previous post, weather and climate are two completely different things and are not to be confused.