Saintandy666

I'm not saying that at this school the right have different religious views aren't respected, I'm sure they are. And I'm not saying that anyone has explicitly said to her directly 'you will go to hell if you do not do this'. But she would have been taught of hell, and the problem I have with R.E lessons retrospectively is that they are taught just like science lessons. No-one mentions the vast factual disputes that contradict hell existing. The daily assemblies and other christian based events go pretty heavy on the children who are too young to reason for themselves. I think the solution is just no Catholic schools, no C of E schools, no Muslim schools, no Jewish schools etc etc etc

I think if most Christians actually read certain vast stretches of the Bible, they'd be disgusted by what it says.

Depends what you define a nation as... a state institution or a psychological entity. I tend to go for the latter, which brings up the oddity you mention.

If the Bible wasn't a religious book, it would be banned from modern schools due to its discriminative passages. Discuss.

I think he also comes across as condescending.

I see, strange that he is affable in person when he comes across so badly in interviews, speeches and questioning.

God and Christianity aren't the same thing. Maybe you are Deist? Either way, the fact you said you are not religious as such sums up pretty much what I said in the rest of my post. Lots of a people maybe loosely believe in a God, but are they Christian??? No, they aren't.

How do you find Gove in person?

It's unhelpful in an educational environment and amounts to indoctrination by the state. In a school, which is a public arena, only facts should be dealt with... and religion can be dealt with privately at home. And are we really a Christian nation anymore? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6520463.stm Bear in mind that survey was in 2007 and the trends are downwards. The difference between people who say they are Christian and those who actually believe and practice is huge. I would say we are massively secular as a society. Just look to the US if you want to see a Christian nation.

At Primary school nearly all my assemblies had(or at least they were) to be Christian based, and at Secondary school... a certain amount were. It's about time we kicked religion out of the education system(except for R.E of course). Telling a child that if they don't do God's bidding, they will burn for eternity in hell is nothing short of abuse. I used to believe it all because I was taught that way, then I grew up and thought for myself. I did not go to a Christian school. Schools have plenty of Bibles already, yet when I left my secondary school in 2009, it still had text books from the 80's and early 90's. Edit: Informative article on school's and Christian based assemblies here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/8743072/Most-schools-shunning-law-on-Christian-assemblies.html

I disagree, as you know. But what of this policy? Do you think it is wise to spend £375,000 on this? Do you think it will help further the education of children?

That's not my point. Regardless of what you think or what I think about this, the point is that the public sector disagrees. And over something like pensions, which are incredibly important, why shouldn't they be allowed to strike? It's not like it is over something pointless, it's pensions! Sometimes, extreme action has to be taken. Teacher's are aware of their social responsibility, and love their jobs, and wouldn't just go on strike for the sake of it. They are taking this very seriously.

Mr. Gove is totally unlikeable. And he doesn't have a clue. He is obsessed with returning to yesteryear when what we need to do is move forwards. Best parliament moment ever Also hilarious... At my secondary school, a lot of the text-books and facilities were older than me, some text-books were from the 80's and parts of the school were literally falling to pieces(it was only meant to be a temporary building built in the 60's)... How will spending £375,000 on these Bibles help anyone's education?!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/nov/25/michael-gove-king-james-bible Why is this needed? Would be better to send out science text books instead.

Thanks for your input.

Didn't even catch the commentary today, but it sounds **** on all accounts. As long as we don't make a habit of it though, we'll be fine. Onwards the bus goes(after a small diversion).

So you don't think people should be able to strike?

War in Afghanistan was justified in the sphere of dismantling Al Qaeda's networks. We won't destroy Al Qaeda's ideas with bullets and bombs though, because ideas are bulletproof.

Away, we have played 9, won 3, drawn 3 and lost 3.

In my opinion, I think they should make the A2 year worth more UMS marks than than the AS year, as it is harder. Too many people get A's based on a good AS year while others consistently get A's over the exam periods(2 sets of exams or 4 depending on the subject). Though, on AS being part of a downgrade... lots of people fail at AS and drop out, or at least have a culture shock and fail their first modules.

Yes, Thorium! My sciency friend who is into this stuff was telling me about this the other week!!! Sounds exciting.

Damn right. And I hate the anti-strike feeling by some right now. Regardless of whether you agree with the strikers... the fact is they DO disagree and so they should be at least allowed to strike and if they can't strike over pensions, what can they strike over?

I have read both websites in past, on more than one occasion. I believe it's no good just shouting about it if you haven't seen what the other side say.

I read the Mail, I hate most of what it says. It is good to keep up with other viewpoints though.