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He’s been dreadful, main attribute seems to have been loyalty to Reed but that’s irrelevant now. Leaves behind a bloated, slow and mentally feeble squad, truly the worst I can remember in any division have been in. Bar Djenepo, Redmond, Romeu and Ings I cannot say I would be bothered in the slightest if any of them left and even the above names would not cause too much disappointment. Reed and Hunter have even left the academy in an appalling state, the club’s main reason for existing. Long repair job for Jaidi as well. Watch England decline with Reed’s influence - at least the rest of the country can have a taste of his ineptitude and BS. That’s where Ross probably learned self promotion from and our newspapers lost their ability to properly challenge a question individuals a while ago.

Not around convergence with EU regulations it isn’t, and it is very dangerous for some sectors, including aerospace and as you will know, the impact on skilled jobs in places like the South West could be huge. Letwin will pass anyway so extension until 31/1/20 to enable proper scrutiny as is the correct role of Parliament and Cummings can scream all he wants via the non-independent newspapers who he will dictate copy to. The Treasury’s economic analysis also needs to be seen in public - Javid can’t hide that forever. There has to be a shared risk level that is reasonable between the impact on skilled and unskilled roles/industries - the get it done emotions of the unskilled cannot be the dominant voice as the impact for the skilled will also last a generation.

Sort of advert which would appeal to bottom stream dwellers at my old secondary school. Seem to remember them singing those words when a German secondary school party visited around the school and them thinking it was funny. Probably will also appeal to the same England Members Club idiots that sang the German Bombers/RAF song at the 2006 WC. Frankly, it’s not Merkel’s fault that 110000 English nats voted the village buffoon to lead the country.

I have the option of LD fortunately, although I'm not that keen on their Brexit position either. If it was Tory V Labour, whilst I detest Corbyn, I'm from the Peter Oborne school of thought recently which says Boris is even more harmful for the economy than Corbyn. Astonishing thought. Max Hastings says that if Labour had any other leader they would romp home and I agree, but Labour will need just as a big job purging the extremists as Kinnock had. Ditto the Tries although different demographics, nature may take its course instead to some extent.

Thanks, although who thought anything could go wrong with Gao buying the club? I mean he only failed FAPP the first time.... Although the cynic in me says that it's more to do with him not purchasing the other 20%.

Reckon either of us could beat Corbyn. As Max Hastings says, anyone other than Corbyn would be getting a majority. Sadly for the rest of us, the Trots in Momentum are hanging onto their boy and the gammons from UKIP will do the same with Boris. Both main parties infected by respective entryist diseases.

It’s been dreadful again. The team are trying to play like a PL side from the Poch and Koeman era but have to stick to the basics as they are mid table Championship at best. We don’t have a midfield so develop Adams so he can hold it up and bring Ings and Redmond. Not nice to watch but Burnley squad and Burnley budget means Burnley football until the main vestiges of that stupid old buffoon’s transfer dealings, and that of assistant who thankfully looks Rangers bound, are gone.

At a guess, reluctantly comply screaming blue murder in the DT that the horrible judges and undemocratic parliament (who don’t have Crispin Odey bankrolling them hoping to win £500m on No Deal to add to his allegedly colossal winnings from 2016). Then call an election in November on a harder deal platform and try to compete with Farage in an old white van man race to the bottom. Whatever Farage says about an alignment, it would have to be no deal and I don’t think the Tory could carry on its current form if that happened. Boris is also going to get a level of exposure in a GE campaign he has never had before, it will be x100 what he has had in the job so far. Implosion risk is v high. Either way, rather a positive scenario for Swinson, who I’m not sure I particularly rate. Labour will do so so, but they should be getting an overall majority with anyone other than Corbyn in charge.

But one which suits one of Boris’s bosses, Crispin Odious, very nicely indeed so he can profit from the carcasses on a no deal, just like he allegedly did to the tune of £220m in 2016 after the result. Democracy my arse.

Yep, and a 5 minute Google would find hundreds more like that with little effort. Try finding anywhere near the same on the Remain side. You might, but it will take a heck of a lot longer, if at all. Moreover, all of bile from Cummings, Johnson, Francois and co is making the ex BNP and Combat 18 brigade even more aggressive. And Boris’s own family condemn his language as inflammatory and likely to lead to violence.

I agree with you, and gulp, Cummins, in this. Most Brexiteers and Remainers would probably agree that Article 50 being declared that early by May royally screwed whoever came next, although Boris didn’t need any help in that, the nutcase with his do or die crap about Oct 31. It was incredibly stupid but May generally wasn’t very bright. It’s what she thought the foaming at the mouth brigade in her party wanted, on top of the disgusting Windrush policies in the Home Office she was responsible for. Really, her and Boris have a lot in common in their lack of independent critical thought

Jeff said something about Wes which went too far and several of ‘us’ said so - was on the thread from that time. Clearly, it would be absurd to say 17.4m are racist, susceptible to Cummings and Boris’s lies, but not necessarily racist. All the people who are racist voted in that 17.4m. What percentage that is I couldn’t say. Look at the evidence - the Soldier, Jess Phillips staff intimidated and threatened, Jo Cox murdered, Leave EU directly threatening ex Tory MPs who wouldn’t support their extreme right wing agenda funded by Banks and Putin. Even in my family, German born family members told to ‘go home’ in front of their English-born kids. Open racism by the Brexit Party, Widdecombe’s racist speech about slavery. If Nick Griffin and his revolting BNP had done a fraction of the above, the Tories would have hammered him. Let’s not even get started on Tommy Sheridan and co because this is getting embarrassing. The reason there isn’t a balance in the media, a very xenophobic and nationalist media, is that marches and a bit of a few soap dodgers shouting at JRM is about as bad as it has got on the Remain side.

You should post on this thread more often. Cummings is straight out the Trump playbook, similar values to those nationalists who assassinated Jo Cox. All I have seen from Remainers is peaceful marches in large numbers and a bit of heckling at JRM and Boris who was so petrified he had to leave Luxembourg. From Brexiteers we have had murder, physical attacks on MPs, racism (numerous, including Widdecombe’s slavery speech), incitement to violence towards ex Tory MPs and judges from Leave.EU, which is where Cummings learned his vile trade. Loads of their mates made a ton of money out of the referendum but it doesn’t get airtime. It’s not just the usual suspects - Sun, Mail - DT is like something out of Germany in the 30s, it is totally a propaganda machine and Leave.EU in print form. The language being used - surrender, traitor, hero - disgusting. My grandfather was a hero in WW2 - but he would have found Boris and Cummings revolting as a cultured man who fought for his country and saw all the above words in action in real life. That’s who taught me tolerance and respect for others, not like those poundshop Steve Bannons.

Did the job - look at Spurs at Colchester to see how it could have gone wrong so credit to the lads. They were always going to start strongly and then fade, Ings clinical and best player on pitch. Cedric, Romeu, JWP, Yoshi and Obafemi did well. Pity Adams didn’t break his duck. Redmond showed his quality when coming on. Not sure after that drubbing that the skates will even be bothered to smash up/improve their surroundings.

The old Leave consortium splintering instantly - Farage and Tice both calling for Cummings to go and the latter saying that both Boris needs to go and Brexit delayed. Leave.EU spewing out more far right bile I see. With the Labour conference getting so silly, a Clarke/Harman coaltion would be a good idea for a while until the GE as an national emergency whilst the Tories and Labour recover from being drunk at the wheel and can start to kick out their entryists and clean up their acts, electing new leaders. There will be some more sensible Brexiteers that can come on board for the interim. GE in Nov, if that's when it is, is going to make the football tonight look like high tea by comparison.

That’s Momentum for you, straight out of the Soviet era playbook. Revolting extremism, and the sad thing is the Tories have copied it with UKIP. Not sure about the LDs at present so looks like abstention for me. This is why only people from the centres of parties should be leading them.

Because he can run at least and is vaguely athletic. Would help if he was actually played in position. Whatever issue RH with Bertrand it needs sorting out and if the manager won’t do it, Semmens night have to.

Appalling from manager, players and the fans. RH has cocked that up and would never recover from that type of debacle at Spurs or Man U, so he and Saints are ideal as he can he do very well overall and be forgiven when has a selection brain fart - and this isn’t the first one by a long way eg Cardiff last year. Players were lazy and sloppy from the start. Fans should be really singing Bertrand and Valery’s names, put lots of pressure on RH to swallow his pride and drop this silly set up. It doesn’t work.

You should try the book Mail Men about some of Dacre’s behaviour towards his staff - no wonder the paper became so vindictive. Although the Lawrence headline about naming the and shaming lads who were eventually convicted took guts - some respect for doing that. That was as brave as The Sun is cowardly.

Agree with you and Lighthouse but the press will always use freedom as a excuse and they will always worm their way into our politicians eg Murdoch with Thatcher, Blair, Brown and Cameron, DT with Boris. Would love to see the tabloids shut for good like the NOTW. It would do more for English education levels rising than opening a hundred schools. The Guardian article at the weekend was pathetic and showed a worrying lack of editorial oversight. No justification for it. Rightly an apology. Do not want to see that journalist in print again. However, the Sun and its stablemates have very long form for this regardless of whichever politician it was supporting - Gotcha in the Falklands with the Belgrano, Hillsborough lies, Milly Dowler and now this. For a paper that claims to champion the underclass against elites, they sure look like a hired gun for the establishment to me. Now they have picked on a World Cup winner and national hero - bad move. The guy wasn’t even born when it happened yet the potential for distress to his family is high. Zero public interest. It did get a lot of public interest in NZ...in 1988. How on earth is a tragedy from 31 years ago and 12000 miles away relevant in 2019 Britain? Rare I agree with scousers but they have the right idea - stop buying it rather than censor it.

Superb game, both sides great going forward but awful at the back. Club wold be pretty happy with that game and a sugar rush of goals for a stadium not used to it since Ronald left!

We should have had you as Remain’s Campaign Director, would have wiped the floor with Cummings and co. Miles better to state the positives than Project Fear. The lies on the NHS would have taken plenty in still but forearmed is forewarned and a big vulnerable point for Boris now in a future election in relation to any kind of trust and credibility.

If people in those constituencies think the Tory party version 2019 is going to help them and millions of other working families they are in for a major disappointment. It would mean Barnsley and ex-mining areas voting for Thatcherites - not saying it is impossible but would destroy families. Is a No Deal Brexit really that emotionally important that families will put themselves even further in debt just to keep the Sun happy? With a little patience, there can be a Brexit that is of a cliff edge for working people, and that includes me and my family. I can understand why people switched from Labour to Tory in the 80s through Right to Buy, there was something tangible whatever your views on the impact on housing policy overall. I suspect what people are trying to do is demand a stake in the economy feeling they don’t have one at present. That has nothing to do with the EU, so whatever Brexit does happen, and whoever governs, they will need to find a way to offer people more of a stake in the economy again. There is a fair bit of research showing that the largest Brexit voting regions want to see a dividend.

Parliament is broadly reflective of how the country voted in 2017 and will be reflective of how the country votes again in a GE Nov or after. That’s separate from a single issue referendum. As others have already posted, constituency MPs need to do what is best for their constituents, and No Deal is likely to be very bad for many, and is at best a huge leap in the dark. Other MPs from leave-voting areas will try to represent significant segments of their constituents eg Fisheries or agriculture in the Fens. So the way forward is to extend the deadline, irrespective of whatever Boris has promised the ERG, Cummings and 100k Tory members, to negotiate a compromise so the country can actually Brexit and move on. It sounds like there is some modest progress with Ireland today so perhaps he can do it when he gets Cummings and the DT off his back and puts the megaphone down. After all, the referendum was 52/48 so as a number of the more sensible Tory Brexiteers have said, compromise was always likely.

No it hasn't - they've had three opportunities to push the button on Brexit and almost all of them understand the consequences of not respecting the vote. The purists on the remainer but especially the ERG/Brexiteer group didn't want to compromise. There's plenty of people in the electorate who want it done who understand it, far less are passionate about a No Deal Brexit bar 75% of a small stub of 100k Tory members left and a smaller rump again of Brexit Party members. That's out of 17.4m that voted Leave and the 16-odd million who voted Remain who have an equal right to push for a Brexit which limits the damage to their industries and futures. The bigger issue is what type of Brexit and that's what the deadlock is about. A GE is looking unikely to solve that as neither the Tories or Labour are capable of commanding a majority under FTTP because they have left far too much of their middle and moderate grounds behind, especially now Boris has lost Davidson in Scotland and Labour is still bedevilled by the Anti-Semitism saga. I would envisage the LDs continuing their recovery taking some seats off both main parties although steady rather than spectacular. Not because Swinson is any great shakes, but she isn't the two main parties. If they went after a Norway or similar Brexit they would collect more Tory voters I suspect. The polls at the weekend gave Boris a good lead but the data was focused about leave voters and remember, May had a twenty point lead over Steptoe at the start of the 2017 campaign. She might have been dull but she didn't have Boris's habit of imploding, as he's already shown under pressure. A Norway Brexit is as much a Brexit as a No Deal, or Canada +++ even. The maths are that Norway has come far closer than anything else to passing in Parliament. The £350m and the NHS was a lie by Cummings anyway so paying a bit towards membership is hardly an electoral problem. We can then get on with a lot of neglected domestic agendas - social care, health, education, business, infrastructure, climate change, science. The key to unlocking this is Boris dumping Dominic Cummings this week, having his own ideas, working out with Ireland how the backstop issue can be overcome and actually seeking some cooperation, because May left that far too late. Now what you have is a game of chess with the electorate, Ireland and EU as the pawns.