Greedyfly

So glad I said what I said about Bree and Holgate who have now both dropped a bollock this half.

Couldn't agree more. Have been critical of him throughout but he's having a good game and he's managed to pass to team mates too. Think Holgate has been just fine too despite being utter shit in every other appearance. KWP is class though. Che useless non-existent half.

Great to get that win, nice to grind out a win too. But it's still not pretty. I will, however, take 20+ugly wins any day.

You say that as if isn't exactly the thing it will do If you think being as good as Hull is our ceiling then we're really in for mid-table obscurity. The performance from the few minutes I could stand, is the same insipid performance we've put out since maybe game 3 and one half against Leeds aside. At least until this point he could be given the benefit of the doubt. We're 12 games in and going backwards if anything. I think most of doubt has gone.

You forgot time. We need to give him/them all the time in the world, you know until it's mathematically impossible to get promotion, to iron out the kinks. And bravery And then some more time.

Alan Ball. Football has somewhat moved on from those days but it actually feels we are trying to be too clever with the limited squad we have - and an even more limited manager. Maybe if we reverted to those tactics Martin might achieve something yet. Unfortunately we don't have a Le Tiss in our ranks but I am hoping Stewart might provide some answers. big hope that though.

None taken ..I think. Nah we're having one of those respectable debates that hasn't turned to discussing university's or whatever else is going on around us. But here's the thing, the 8 on target might have been enough IF Arma starts in the position in which he excelled last week instead of shoe horning in an absolute cart horse in Che. If he starts Alcaraz who was the reason we could pass out from the back, to attack, we might convert one of the 8. If he doesn't take off Suleman, if he starts Charles etc etc etc. He's making no friends when in reality he could make life easier for himself. I mean where the fuck has Edozie gone? Scored 2, nah on the bench son. He's managed to get the Left Back team of the year player, looking like shit. Turned Smallbone, who was lauded at Sunderland, into a match stick, and bigged up one of the worst keepers I've ever seen. Yes there's players that should cop some of the blame but he's the Southampton version of Frank Lampard. Over complicating with under complicated players. Really, the stats are flattering us. 8 on target Vs Rotherham is the bare minimum.

Nope but we shouldn't have been in this position in the first place. Ponderous build up play, awful tactics, not trying to kill the game off, shit subs, shit starting line up, all of his own doing. I didn't dislike his appointment, but he's getting slower and more predictable each week and I dislike him with each game that passes. Fucking Rotherham. A competent manager has us beating them without incident

Hmm bit more punch behind them now though. It's not a 'told you so' moment as much as I'm still not convinced he's setting us up to win. Score, sit back, take off good players, concede, have no way back rinse repeat. Like I said we were great against Leeds first half but we've been anything but convincing this season against anyone. And we've played some utter shit teams as well.

How is it not?

When he's got us up with a decent squad and without the prem players that got us the first 3 wins. Appreciate however, that my words have a lot less weight now though 😂

I just don't get this line up again, but even with it we should still win. Still feels like we're winning (if we win) in spite of Martin's fucking about, not because of it. We were good first half last week but meh the second.

As glad as I am for the win, especially as an attendee, we still weren't great. Having Alcaraz in the middle gave us a better passing outlet, at least in the first half, but Smallbone, who I don't dislike, unlike many others on here, still wouldn't have been my first choice over Charles. Sulemana was a good start (weird substitute) and should have stayed on, but yeah. Good result, but an average but improved performance. Shout to Armstrong who was very proactive for his goal and good throughout (one will definitely be chalked to an own goal).

Whether I want him gone or not, I'd actually like this to see who they'd get this time out. Like they would have to actively seek out someone who's utterly useless but still qualified as a manager. It would take some doing...

Shouldn't have been given the job in the first place

A) no you wouldn't, he's a better creative force Vs Smallbone and I don't particular dislike Smallbone but you can't have nothing coming from the CM area and Charles isn't the one to get dropped B) The criticism is justified because he's an utterly atrocious goalkeeper C) Alcaraz may well have been shit this season BUT he's at least been good at various other times. Baz has yet to have a good game. At all.

A plank of wood? Wood have the same net output

The lyrics to the Christmas classic 'The fairytale of Southampton football club'?

He's done that yearly trick is scoring enough goals prior to the end of the transfer window closing, to trick some into thinking he's the answer to our striking problems. Post window closure he's absent.

Someone ban this man. Ridiculously sensible suggestions. Get out.

Behave yourself.

Unclear why it was Adozie getting the chop again, even if this shape should, on paper, be better

55 seconds in and our LB and CM are falling over each other. It's actually fucking pathetic

Completely overlooking the fact that Aribo has always been shit whereas Alcaraz has at least had the dignity to limit it to this season, but sure 🙄.

What the actual fuck. Aside from all the other valid points made above, Alcaraz must be fucking livid he stayed this summer.