Greedyfly

We don't have a good squad. Our entire midfield is awful, Bertrand is the only saving grace in defence and we at least have two good goalkeepers.

He started the first 5 mins in that role and he put a decent ball into the box. Then reverted to bog standard type. Every time he picked up the ball centrally he looked half dangerous; he also looks like he has some skills but he seems to do the sum total of **** all for the rest of the game. Can't help but think Boufal would have done the same job without the financial outlay.

**** me, I agree.

That doesn't mean they are beyond reproach. A number of players are not performing, and Moi wouldn't be top of my **** list, and absolutely go along to games and support the team, BUT let's be clear; in the same way you are presumably paid to do an adequate job and reprimanded for inadequacies, so should Moi and anyone else for that matter. For my money the few that would escape unscathed would be McCarthy (mostly), Bertrand (for he's the only consistent bit of quality we have left) and possibly Ings (because someone has to score something). The rest are varying degrees of average (Moi) bordering on awful (Long, Hoedt - this weekend aside).

Is that some top level trolling? Because if so, bravo! He was bought in to do a job, of which he is currently not doing. In fact I was quite happy with this signing but so far I don't actually know what he does well. I've seen him play in the Europa and he looked very handy but so far we haven't seen anything. Not the Shane Long running his ass off which everyone on here likes, no tricks or skills which some on here like, or any useful contribution towards goals, which I'd personally like. He's been bloody average so far. I don't think I've heard too much in the way of negativity towards him from the stands so he appears to be still getting the same level of support as everyone else but I'd expect someone being paid well to do his job adequately. He isn't so therefore deserves every bit of criticism coming his way. Could also be something to do with the way we set up , as he still seems to be doing alright for his country.

This. He's dreadful, but collectively he's no worse than all our CBs. Calling for calamity Yoshida to start just indicates how far we've gone backwards...Even if he could do no worse. That said his out ball was crap but Hojberg has got it caught under his feet for about the third time already this game. Also where is SKD with his 'Lemina is good enough for top 4' BS.

To be fair, both players are bloody dreadful.

And people are looking to Yoshida as a full time replacement for Hoedt; they are as bad as each other.

Does he? I thought so vs Burnley but I think he's been bloody dreadful since which is a shame as I had/still have some high hopes for him...those hopes have since been tempered somewhat. Ings looks like he is quality and has benefited from being at Liverpool, if not from a game time perspective. Considering his goals this season are as a result of almost no consistent creativity behind him I think he's a good signing. Also think Gunn was a good signing and the fee would have been good if we could have shifted Forster.

This. Thousand times this.

Said this one last year, he know's how to, relatively speaking, organise a defence.

Yep, would be my preferred line-up also. Expect to see something not at all resembling this then.

Should he be this season's hero then? He shouldn't even be considered this season's mediocre bracket player.

No chip. Thought it was a bit much making assumptions off of a third person assessment, after Sim's had been there a day, on his debut, at a new club etc etc.

Absolutely. Someone as an out, a bit of strength and endeavour, and preferably one that can act as a focal point, instead of a headless chicken.

Then you both enjoy mediocre football because I, and others I've spoken to, watched a **** affair on MNF between two ****e sides. Turkish noted above about being 'all over' Milan at the San Siro; that is what I would call 'being all over someone', not Redmond running into blind alleys, Moi still looking **** and Long being Long. Bottom line is we have a ****e manager, a ****e squad of players and little hope of playing entertaining football this season (and maybe scraping the odd win) with those two situations as they are. The problem is that those situations are also born out of poor management from the top, all the way down.

He's changed his tune, has he?

Three different people, who don't support Saints, sat and watched that game. Most remarked that we had slightly more class on the ball in the first half and that Brighton were making it easy for us by sitting off. Not one would agree that it was high quality football where we were some reincarnation of 1970 Brazil. We were better, we weren't however, impressive or all over them. I've watched it once and the highlights. Maybe you should strain yourself and do the same and not from your pitch view seat. Like I said, some people in here are entertained by mediocre football and 'effort'. Usually those who think 0 goals and assists is reasonable return from Redmond.

Can't score with no shots on target. So it's you chatting ****. But do carry on getting carried away with sub standard football.

Ahhh it is 'live hype', I get it now. Well with the benefit of replays, being able to see more of the game, rewind stuff and you know, stats, we weren't. However, if by 'all over them' you mean knocking it around ineffectually without actually challenging their goalkeeper, then yes. We were all over them.

Don't agree. Watching from home we knocked the ball about in front of them because they weren't stepping up. We defo weren't all over them or creating them any problems

Yeah sounds about right for this place. Effort and work rate is a counter for a lack of any other attribute.

Might have been sarcastic in my delivery but the facts are he contributes the sum of **** all. Team wise, shambolic performance but expected when you only have shambolic players at your disposal. Single digits for goals and assists combined last season, going the same way for Redmond again this. Long, well he's always been a ****ing disaster outside of the Championship but he runs a lot so people like him. So anyone who's happy that we're still stuck with them both as first team players has a better drug dealer than I do. Relegation battle again with drab, boring, pedestrian football.

Yes, literally basking in the glow of his zero goals, zero PL assists. He's as ineffective as Long and those impressed by him are those that believe effort is all you need as a premier league footballer.

We weren't all over them at all. Can only assume people saying that got caught up in the live hype. We were better, I agree. We were not all over them and it took one wonder strike to come close to breaking the deadlock. As always lots of running and possession and no end product. We're boring and in effective. Horrible combination.