Greedyfly

Can't be true, he'd improve the top 6 don't ya know

Where's SKD to tell us how good Lemina is. Laughable

Is that meant as a joke or some more crazy delusions of grandeur?

Can just about stomach this as it's an end of season appointment only. Hope he gets us organised but it's a nothing appointment born out of desperation rather than a thorough process (a luxury we couldn't afford). Brand of football is grim and Stoke are in fact below us. Still if he keeps us up... We are **** and beggars clearly couldn't be choosers

Included the cup assist but not the league, so fair enough. 2 assists. And I agree in part, the whole team is a shambles and Carrillo is one part of that but then Austin pretty much had the same system and makes a mockery of the those excuses because a) he is influencing the game because he's scoring, and b) he's scoring, which is what we need. Essentially, he's not been very good and anyone who looked at the signing a bit before we actually got him could see he was going to be a pal of Pellegrino's and nothing more. Certainly not a solution to our ever worsening plight. Bottom line, system or not, he's been average, he is average and he's only ever going to be average. And that's being polite.

Here's some verifiable numbers for you then: At 6.2 he's won less than 36% of all headers, he's had exactly 11 shots on target and missed half of them. Nothing sticks to him so he's an absolute shambles of a target man which means we have both no defensive out or an attacking out. He has one assist (which I still think was a bloody fluke because he just ballooned it up in the air and it was more to do with Tadic than Carrillo) and crucially, he's scored **** all. He's absolutely bang average and at 20mil he's actually ****ing awful. He's literally no better than Long (in fact worse over the course of his career and that's in arguable worse leagues) but the difference is we now have a 20mil deficit that could have gone on literally anyone else to do the same ****ty job. He's toilet. I agree he's hardly helped out by out incredibly ****e support structure, and he's by no means at fault for our predicament (as someone said above he hasn't caused it, but neither is he the solution) but don't go around pretending he's actually ok as a result because he isn't. Sorry, forgot this absolute gem; he hasn't scored a goal with his feet in 2 years.

That's numberwang

Ok so we're out of the 'give him time' phase are we lol

Lemina has looked like the sort of player that could play for a top 6 side...lolz. WHere's SKD?

Now what you ****ing useless negative clown?

At what? I watched a different game to you. How many chances did he create, assists, goal attempts? Another headless chicken performance it was.

The overly negative (with emphasis on overly) team selection, I thought that was pretty clear to be honest. We have the ever dreadful Redmond in, Carrillo up front and players playing in ineffectual positions. JWP is zero threat except when we have plenty of corners/free kicks. No Sims, no Boufal, no Gabbi etc etc

And yet, he'd still be a better option than Redmond. That said I agree with your other points.

Dreadful line up, lets hope for a fluke result!

I'll take that. That alone might be enough. He'd still be infinitely more useful than Long or Carrillo.

Equals 6? I'm lost, who's whose pal?

SKD will be along in a minute to tell us he's a striker worthy of a top 7 side or something. He's absolutely dog**** (literally worse than I thought). In fact his one supposed attribute, being good in the air, he's also **** at.

Big fan of that challenge myself.

My thoughts exactly. Some on here think we are some big time 7th/8th team who are scrumming it with little ol Swansea and Newcastle but that just isn't the case. We have some very very average players as does every other team in that bracket.

Haha here he comes, knew you'd be creaming yourself at this non news. He hasn't gone anywhere yet and it's the Mail, and only because he's the only player in our squad, apart from Bertrand, who would attract a fee. Hence the non link. But here's the thing (and you struggle with basic things such as facts so I am sure I'll have to repeat myself), one he wouldn't go to 'any top 6 side', two he's only a possibility because they are selling Can (who he wouldn't oust in their current side), three, I said Arsenal and possibly Liverpool's bench because they have low quality backups, however, it remains to seen if he'd get a sniff ahead of Wijnaldum and 4 he hasn't gone anywhere. You go back to your funny juice, head in the sand belief though that we have the bestest squad outside the top 7. Which is precisely why we are in the bottom 5. Div.

And I said that's never going to happen... (you can apologise later). He might MIGHT get a look in at Arsenal, but no one else so until he plays for at least one of the other teams then I'll be apologising for nothing. I recognise it quite well thank you. And from seeing him play AND comparing it to the stats we already knew - he's bang average...something you can't see. You only have to look at the Carrillo thread to tell you that. As for scoring more goals...Um. I mean we are still averaging a goal a game, in the league, which hasn't improved since he joined. The Brom games were an anomaly because they are worse than us but that didn't bump things up by any great measure. Also, I mean, I am not the biggest fan of the board at the moment, but are you actually trying to tell me they didn't bring in, someone who has only ever played as an out an out striker, who MoPe himself said was a replacement for Austin, to score goals. Is that the sort of thing you're coming up with now? Bonkers. And you're right about one thing (I mean a stop watch and all that) that he hasn't set the world alight, he's barely lit a match - waste of money is more accurate. We could have literally signed any, ANY lump and that would have changed our general shape because we could just hit them as an out. Results and performances haven't improved much and had the useless clown in charge just adapted our play just a bit (i.e. attack once in a while would be a start) Gabbi would have been perfectly capable until Austin returned. He didn't, he stuck with the ever useless Long then got his way with some of the VVd money and use it to spend on an old friend. Cracking business Saints.

Here he comes, "Lemina could play for anyone" No obsession but there's a reason why every club in the world, apparently apart from Saints, uses them. Also, Carrillo was bought in to score goals....His total so far is one assist, and one shank that Tadic turned into an assist. So he's hardly set the world alight. I am just hoping Austin turns up pretty soon.

I am well aware what it lists him as. I said 'his main position' and the 'one he's started 22 games as' is CF. You also omitted that it also lists him as a 'forward' from your post. Again, not knowing much about him I await someone of intimate knowledge of Swedish football to shed some light on this. As, if he is mainly a winger/attacking left/right then those stats are pretty decent (what are his assists like), however if they are for a striker (which we need as well as an attacking number 10) then he's just another Carrillo. Bankg average.

Whoscored.com reckons that you are now being a little economical with the truth listing his main position (the one he's started 22 games this season) as striker (https://www.whoscored.com/Players/320575/Show/Saman-Ghoddos). Can't say I have any actual knowledge of him baring the odd BT Sport appearance, so you may well be right, but it sounds like another Carrillo to me...And we've already got two of them. Is it too much to ask to look in the German, Portuguese, Spanish leagues for a semi prolific striker?

Is he good enough to be promoted to/potential for the first team? Forsters contract is a huge issue I agree but if we can stay up and he stays on the bench we may persuade a team coming up/going down to part of a few quid.