There when Franny scored

Ridiculous. The number of goals we have scored from Fox set plays - the ideal person to bring on to try to get one late on. Especially when not likely to be under any defensive pressure.

Irrelevant. You expect a Prem referee to base each decision on its merits.

Your comments about Adkins are staggering. Shaw started his first PL game today at 17 (youngest every Prem appearance for Saints) and was tired. We needed to score and Fox, for all his defensive limitations, has an excellent delivery from set plays. Exactly what you need when time is running out.

The challenge on AL by Monk was as clear a foul as you will see. 90% sure it was in the area as well from the replays. The one on Clyne in the first half was also a foul anywhere else on the pitch. I'm amazed to see threads blaming the manger today. We actually defended well except for their goal - must be so disheartening for Adkins.

Much too simplistic to reduce the argument to whether we play 4-3-3 or 4-4-2. We adapt our formation depending on who we're playing. We have very rarely played an outright 4-3-3 this season in any game as this excellent website suggests: http://www.whoscored.com/Teams/18

Just seen it again in slow motion from a different angle. Huge and blatant push by Winston Reid on Fonte. It was clear that Fat Sam had told Carroll to try to win free kicks around our box by going down even with minimal contact. As the stats show, we are weak at defending set pieces and they are very effective from them. Perhaps we should have allowed Carroll to win the headers and concentrated on the second ball? Easy to say with hindsight.

Agree. I watched the whole game and the system was very effective defensively with us largely dominant in midfield and quicker to the second ball. We weren't as potent going forward as the midfield were more conservative with their passing with the result that we were more compact. Against Everton and Arsenal the system was probably nieve and too open against that qaulity of opposition, but no blaming the system today: Adkins got it right. Nothing any manager could have done about the succession of defensive errors so you have to question the recruitment in the summer for which I understand Adkins to be only partially responsible.

Some interesting discussion on Ramirez here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/timvickery/2012/09/uruguay_have_cause_for_world_c.html

http://www.zerocinquantuno.com/?action=read&idnotizia=6739 Ramirez, has not yet reached the green of the Penarol 08/31/2012 11:29 Editorial Zerocinquantuno article read 35 times Source: Il Resto del Carlino In May, when the season ended, you could easily assume that the telenovela Gaston Ramirez would keep bench throughout the summer. But the fate of the talented Uruguayan could keep in check the Bologna until the last hour of the last day of the market, that even the most incurable lovers of yellow could have imagined. E 'instead of what's going on. The Italian market closes its doors at 19, to deposit the transfer agreement Ramirez Suothampton to the British instead until midnight. The Bologna until yesterday, when you thought it would come the signatures of all parties, he felt an iron barrel, having been established in full the conditions laid down in Southampton. Only an entire day has gone without came the white smoke. And little has served the event in Milan, in the early afternoon yesterday, to thin the last clouds. The problem, now, is made up of the cartel, does not yet exist, between Penarol, that in case of transfer of the player is entitled to 30% of the value of his card, and the large army of agents-mediators following the story contractual Ramirez. "We are working on all fronts," he said late last night the digi Roberto Zanzi. Clear that 'close' Ramirez is the first option. If Ramirez leaves, in theory, could enter the Brazilian Elkeson, 'old' goal under the Botafogo, but it does not seem a viable solution in a few hours with an ocean in between. More secluded the opportunity to bring a dowry to Pioli in extremis reinforcement in defense. The name that has been around for weeks is eclectic baby Brazilian defender Inter, Juan Jesus.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11700/8036505

http://www.calciomercato.com/prima-pagina/esclusiva-cm-ramirez-verso-liverpool-752811 Given the difficulties of arriving at Southampton Ramirez, Liverpool came back to the assault against Bologna. The willingness of the Reds to snatch the player to Bologna, but subject to the conditions imposed by the Bolognese. Has learned exclusively by Calcimercato.com the request of Bologna is twenty million immediately. Liverpool has reached the maximum 14 but is ready to offer them a new proposal for the red and blue. The new offensive Liverpool has 5 million for the loan sale and a figure between 10 and 15 million for the redemption obligations in 2013. The Bologna try to resist, but given the player will have to start at the end could accept the new formula to make money in a year.

http://www.gianlucadimarzio.com/calciomercato/bologna-elkeson-possibile-il-ritorno-di-fiamma/ Sometimes they come back. Elkeson Botafogo is a name underlined in red for some time on the list of Bologna. Treaty in early summer, then the deal is complicated. If the Southampton able to define everything in a hurry for the latest details of the transaction Ramirez, there may be a flashback on Brazil. Would offer important, there is the out clause 6 million. The Bologna has second thoughts ...

Bologna are supposed to have a public training session at 18:00 Italian time. Be interesting to see if he's there. http://www.ilveromilanista.it/?p=14700 Seems unlikely as he was insulted by fans when leaving the "technical centre" yesterday. http://www.zerocinquantuno.com/?action=read&idnotizia=6713

From the source that broke the story (http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/?action=read&id=376437) http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/?action=read&id=380296 "TMW - Ramirez-Southampton: can be closed today The Uruguayan could become a new player of Southampton, Pablo Bentancur, along with other intermediaries who are working on the operation, will arrive within a few hours in London to close the deal. Into the coffers of Bolgona should arrive about 14 million for 70% of the card. Ramirez would be ready for a four-year 2.5 million euros per season plus bonuses."

http://www.zerocinquantuno.com/?action=read&idnotizia=6715 D'Ippolito: "Problems for the sale of Ramirez of Bologna Alfaro" A lalaziosiamonoi.it, Vincenzo D'Ippolito speaks of problems for Ramirez to Southampton and consequently the Bologna could no longer afford Floccari if the money did not arrive from England. Hence the interest in Emiliano Alfaro, Uruguayan striker for Lazio: "There is a recent interest of Bologna, in the case fails to materialize transfer Floccari. As far as I know, there were problems for the release of Ramirez" http://www.tuttojuve.com/?action=read&idnotizia=107713 "Still problems for the transfer of Ramirez" "The negotiation between Gaston Ramirez and Southampton seems to have assumed the characteristics of a soap opera, before the player had announced an agreement with the English club, but arrived on time the blunt denial of Bologna, now that instead the two teams seemed to have reached the 'agreement is replaced by a new problem. As reported by La Gazzetta dello Sport, the Peñarol which holds 30% of the card the player has not yet accepted the proposal of Southampton, again blocking the transfer of the player, tried for a long time"

http://www.goalcity.com/?area=home&sezione=news_esplosa&id_news=419031&titolo=Rilancio+dei+Saints+per+Ramirez%3A+il+Bologna+tentenna The Southampton and 'pushed up the offer of 10 million for the talented Uruguayan Bolognese but it takes 15. It continues to be treated. Southampton does not give Gaston Ramirez. After the reverse of Bologna, now the Saints have upped the ante reaching more than 10 million. The Rossoblu are shaking even if the distance with 15 million of the initial request and not yet 'been filled.

From the source that initially said we were interested - http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/?action=read&id=378714 "Hilton Hotel - Ramirez - Southampton, you can still make Negotiation still standing. Pablo Bentancur is still working for the transfer of Gaston Ramirez from Bologna to Southampton. The talks between the parties are frequent, the goal is clear: to transfer the player, who has already given its availability. Possible developments within next Tuesday"

http://www.fcinternews.it/?action=read&idnotizia=89971 "Gaston Ramirez continues to push for a transfer to Southampton. Yet despite the lack of formal agreement with Bologna, the British press reported other statements of Uruguayan playmaker confirming the deal: "With the Southampton we have reached an agreement, it is the classic range that for me or for my family I could not refuse.'s a club that strongly believes in me and that is growing, has just been promoted to the Premier League but in a few years will become a big ", in the words of Ramirez, now far away from Inter. However, according to the tabloids, Southampton is not yet sure of the deal, given the excessive demands of Bologna, and before closing would also consider other options in the market." Also: http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/268431/Southampton-close-on-signing-Gaston-Ramirez/; and http://www.express.co.uk/football/view/341412

http://www.zerocinquantuno.com/?action=read&idnotizia=6654 According to the website of the Gazzetta dello Sport, in these minute negotiations between Bologna and Southampton for the sale of Ramirez is definitely missed. The president Emilia Guaraldi did not fulfill the terms of payment guaranteed by the English club. Ramirez, then, could remain in Bologna, but at this time look at Tottenham, that after the sale of Modric to Real Madrid could raise the offer to get to Nino.

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/?action=read&id=376437

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19011746

Ivan Ramis http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/9841563.Saints_want_Ivan_/?ref=rss This article suggests a bid was made that was not from Wigan (who have bid 4m): http://www.marca.com/2012/07/27/futbol/equipos/mallorca/1343376998.html However, this article asserts that the mystery bidder is West Ham or Swansea: http://www.goal.com/es/news/21/fichajes/2012/07/26/3267575/iv%C3%A1n-ramis-cerca-de-west-ham-o-swansea-tengo-una-buena-oferta-de-

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/football/fa-step-in-over-davis-payment-to-newco.18237489

http://psv.netwerk.to/nieuws/artikel/28308__rss.php This article suggests they will sell for 10 million euros. The fans comments are interesting. Some would definitley sell for 8-10 million whereas others say he couldn't be replaced for that sum. A couple of posters even suggest that he won't be a starter for PSV next season. One poster says that he wants to make it clear that PSV are not the "Football LIDL" anymore!