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Big test for MP now. He chased him all summer and worked with him before so knew what he was getting. Does he try and persuade the players to give him another chase or spend the next 7 days trying to get shot of him? Either way it doesn't reflect well on him I'm afriad.

They are having oxygen therapy on the Injuires and it'll depend how thier bodies react to it, the recovery can vary depending on the reaction, fingers crossed. Might back sooner, maybe not though. As I said above initial thoughts were only a week for Lovren but now longer and Ramirez is a bit less than initially feared.

I'm pretty sure the mongboard view as to why we didn't play a strong side at Sunderland in the league cup was because the competition was beneath us and it would risk injuries for our push for the top 4. 'Champions league or nothing' was indeed a quote used. I'm some helmets on here will have memorised posts word for word and be trawling the internet to find a post which vaguely suggests this wasn't the case.

Terrible they've announced this. MLG for one will be outraged after his vigorous defence of not revealing injuries policy as the opposition won't know who to prepare for just over a year ago.

Inital thoughts were just a week

I'd swap every single bit of emotion those Sunderland fans felt tonight for just one shot, one chance to finish 8th instead if 9th this season.

Sorry chaps but the lovren injury is worse than first thought looking at 4-5 weeks :-(

GOod point, i should have put up to 10 weeks.

*********Turkish exclusive*********** Lovern will be out for a round a week with an ankle sprain Ramirez will be out forup to 10 weeks with a chipped Ankle bone FACT

Pretty clear I thought 'the mood in the camp is upbeat" "life goes on" Fantastic response from the players, just what you want.

More lies from scumbag journos. We all know they were only at saints because of his vision http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/southampton/10582692/Southampton-players-barely-miss-chairman-Nicola-Cortese-as-manager-Mauricio-Pochettino-sits-tight.html

Um Pahars has already started planning his smear campaign

Hi Georgie xxx Yes, his Facebook said last night 'thanks for all the good wishes, the leg is okay and I'll be back on the pitch soon'

That's what Chelsea fans would have said in 1984!

How can you say that? Are you a saints fan?

Are our strikers good enough? Both do them missed good chances yesterday,

Anything wrong with what he said? He's right, we wouldn't have loaned Townsend out he'd have played for us like our other 18 year olds are. Spurs expect to be top 6 minimum and in the champions league this season. We have a dream and 'vision' we might do it one day. So what are people offended about?

You expect defenders not to make tackles?

What mental logic, if you're a saints fan it's impossible to think he COULD have made that tackle cleanly is it?!! Just seen it on MOTD and he did indeed get a toe on the ball before of contact with Ramirez, so I'm bang on the money as usual. Read the post again, take a deep breath and engage brain. The question was COULD he have made that tackle safely and got the ball? And did he deliberately try and foul and hurt Ramirez. The answer is of course yes, if he'd been slightly better positioned, slightly quicker, slide I slightly earlier, he makes a clean tackle the ball and wins it easily. you are talking fractions of seconds between a good tackle and a foul. Bit of course it's only Lunatic internet saints who think that this is impossible and what happened was he tried to snap Ramirez in half, nut job.

Which is what you expect defenders to do, yes?

Of course there was. You are talking about fractions of seconds here, he gets to that ball 0.2 seconds earlier and makes a clean tackle, Gaston goes over his leg but he wins the ball cleanly and its a great tackle, not a foul.

You seem to be implying that Wes brown deliberately set out to foul and hurt Ramirez. Do you genuinely believe this to be the case with the game in the balance, gaston through on goal and any slight mistime of the tackle would be a straight red and either a penalty or a free kick in a dangerous position?

Yes but if they are both in Europe and qualify for the champions league only one would be able to enter.

This explains the kit then, I always said it was a master stroke which appealed to the Asian market.

I had a different name then. Who could forget Um Pahars and his valiant attempts to be our fan on the board.