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He ultimately was because Wilde brought him in to clean up his mess. As I said, he was responsible for this first relegation but plenty of clubs of our size have been relegated and not gone into admin, however much you don't like to admit it, that wasn't lowes fault.

And look what happens to the clubs that don't treat it as a business, ie spunking money they don't have. I bet fans of Leeds, Pompey and your very own Coventry wish theyd been run as a business.

Its a bloody shame as we've needed that bigger, expanded stadium since our league one days.

How did it effect zinadine zidane?

And your perspective now is that Lowe lead us to disaster. You can blame Lowe for relegation from the premier league but you can't blame him for being ousted by Wilde, how the fans were taken in by him, how he failed to get the investment he promised, how he spunked millions we didn't have up the wall and how he then invited Lowe back to clean up his mess, a clever tactic in hindsight as he no doubt knew Lowe would then get the blame for what followed and so it proved. But if you're going to claim he 'led us to disaster' the you also need to not forget he also led us to the verge of glory, a higher placed finish than Cortese will ever do without a billionaires credits card to play with. So if you're going to talk about perspective then get the facts right pal. The relegation in 2005 was down to him, but the disaster that followed wasn't plenty of clubs have been relegated to the championship and not been on the brink of going bust.

People weren't saying that when we finished 8th and got to the cup final. Lowe needs to take responsibly for the relegation from the championship but its fashionable to blame him for the relegation to l1 when it was our saviour Micheal Wilde who was to blame. Promised investment that never came, went sh*t or bust for promotion spending money we didn't have and ultimately left us is a mess. He got away with a lot of flack because everyone hated Lowe and he courted Keith Legg to get the fans onside who at the time would have taken anyone but Lowe.and he's Lowe did take a large salary out of the club, but it was a fraction of the wage Cortese took out even when we were a league one club.

Feyenord fans say he's more like Lee Todd.

If we were to play Eindhoven and sign the pacy winger we so desperately need then we're in business.

I think a lot more smoke than you realise. I know for a fact a saints player does as I know a taxi driver who regularly does a fag run for a player who doesn't want to be seen buying them.

That is class, loved the bloke who had seen the Dutch player that doesn't exist and claimed he watched a lot of Dutch football, could be someone off here!!

It really wasn't. It'd have been one of those dreadful out of town stadiums that are a Pain to get, no pubs around and on a retail park surrounded by pizza huts and masive Boots shops. SMS is in the perfect spot.

Yes Jamie, saw them 3 or 4 times, a couple at Soton guildhall.

Being hard after the incident to Put a stop to rumours he was squiniying like a little girl and asking the other boys to sort out Osvaldo.

that he's no longer here and those that saw him play said he was gash.

Most on here rated Forren above Yoshida and Fonte without ever seeing him play.

Can imagine all the players whinging about other players and complain about the mods not taking action to ban anyone who did something in training that the vast majority of players disagreed with.

Tell us a bit more about the lucky lady Mikey so we can advise you. For starters which dating site did you meet her on?

Racist.

Apparently off the pitch he is a really nice, softly spoken, polite guy. Something seems to happen to him when he puts his boots on!

The best managers can harness difficult characters and get the best out of them MP hasn't done this despite his obvious talent. Training ground bust ups are common things, I remember Paul Rideout Chinning Neil Ruddock in a training game, it happens, its down to MP to sort it out or get rid.

On a long journey to your destination you will likely hit a few speed bumps on the way, we have just hit one.

It's true alright, but I wonder what MPs reaction on this is. Training ground bust ups are not uncommon, MP knew what he was getting when he signed him. Its a test for him for sure.

This is all just a figment of people's imagination Baz, it never happened.

I've heard this is true from another source, so I would say it 100% is.