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It's been an imperious performance.

I met a bloke a few years ago who had been convicted of making up the results of DNA tests. He'd set up a company and people sent them their results for things like paternity tests and had basically made them up the whole time. He was sent down for 4 years.

Except he's not played up front yet, unless you count 20 minutes of running around and not touching the ball against Man U. Clearly he's a decent player but whilst we spent fortune on players including £10m on two that arent first choice and are yet to play in their proper positions in the premier league we fsiled to adequately strengthen the areas that needed it.

Square pegs in round holes, persisting with a formation we don't have the players to play it with for two. But I was referring to the logic that if xxxxx had played we'd have conceded less goals and if we'd have taken every chance we got we'd have scored more, so really we could have won 6-0 on another day. Mental logic.

I certainly won't be glossing over fundemental errors in tactics and players by saying 'what if?' 'if only he'd played' and 'on another day' that's the midset of idiots.

Because he says if other players were playing then Everton would not have scored and if we might have had another 3 goals we'd taken all of our chances. We'll this is true but its all hypothetical nonsense because we won't score with every chance we have and who knows if Boruc would have saved those attempts at goal or not saved ones Gazzingia did? It's easy to spout of all hypothetical arguments about what could, might and would have happened in other circumstances, like if Van Persie hadn't joined Man U would be have beaten them 2-0 instead of losing 2-3? Of course we f*cking wouldn't have. The fact of the matter is its ignoring th fundamentals flaws in our team and using the 'on another day' arguement. Totally ignoring the bungled transfer window and spending huge amounts on players like Maykua that we don't need and failed to sign premier league standard wide midfield players, centre backs and left back and had a panic signing of a goalkeeper when it became Apparant quite quickly that Davis wasn't good enough.

So you think moving forward once Boruc plays we'regoing to score with every opportunity we get and Boruc will keep out every chance te opposition have?

So true, it doesn't matter if we go down because we are already ahead of the five year plan. Or something.

It's my raison d'être

Away from home yes, he'd give protection to th full back which has been missing, but it's worrying that we are depending on a player who's been average in lower divisions.

Well the next six or seven games he has a chance to do this. We need to win our home games and pick up a few points away.

Unfortunately Chaplow is the only option, midfield 3 of Davis, JWP and Chaplow. I'm certainly not an advocate of playing players pout of position, especially when they are new to the team. At home the 4-2-3-1 worked fine against Villa so I'd stick with that for Fulham.

Yep, a few on here don't seem to care if we get relegated as Apparantly we a already ahead of the 5 year plan. Which is mental logic.

Yep, if he is the only option, at least he'll give us a bit of energy in midfield I guess.

I agree with you there, it hasn't worked anytime its been played.

A centre back in midfield? Jesus Christ. This reminds me of the glorious 'dan Harding for centre midfield' thread from 2010.

Guly, dynamic? Are you sure?

The problem with Chaplow is every seems to remember his handful of good games before he got injured, where he was also playing in a team which was on fire and not the other two years where he was average at best.

Christ, you know your squad is lacking depth when Chaplow is the answer.

The principal is admirable, but principles don't win matches. It's naive to think that you can go to places like the Emirates and Goodison Park and attack teams, winning by playing great, attacking football. You need to set up to be tight, difficult to break down and beat and then take your chances when they cone along. There is no shame in doing this, it's how Chelsea won the champion league, it's how Moruniho set up Inter to beat Barcelona, it's how Ferguson set up Man U to beat Arsenal in the early 00s with their 'invincibles' we are far too easy to beat at the moment and far too easy too cut through. It's incredibly naive to think you can go to top premier league clubs, teams and players much better than we are and pass your way through them.

so adkins is incompetent then? Why would a manager consistently play a formation which gets us battered in the same positions?

Is it? You don't seriously think a manager of Adkins calibre would persist with a formation that isn't working, we dont have the players for and has consistently left us exposed on the flanks away from home?

Can you please stop this common sense approach. This is no where near the panic and knee jerk reaction we are looking for after losing away to the team in third place.

He's only as good as the team that is picked for him.

The January transfer window is a week closer.