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As a percentage of income they are worse!

Pre boat shoe and boat show.

So Corteses method left us with losses of £7m with a turnover of £12m. Chelsea had losses of £70m (you claim) with a turnover of £200m+. They also have redeveloped their training ground and invested Heavily in their academy.I'm struggling to see what the differences are young Andy.

How do you know? And why is Corteses method better than Ashleys, would you said you wouldnt want?

You didn't. The game I refered to you brought about 2,000tops. Block 43 was empty.

With a pair of tailored shorts and a polo shirt. She said I'd look like a Toff. I stuck with my supergas for that outfit so I looked like a working class Itie instead.

Such arrogance!

Less I'd say. Especially as Reading is a local derby.

What we were doing under this set up wasn't sustainable without backing and writing off debt, Something you dont want!

Err, no it hasn't. I remember one particularly dire 0-0 game against your lot and we only had about 18,000 there.

As the one domestic cup competition missing from our trophy cabinet we should be striving to win it.

Well Chelsea & Man City could survive, if our Owners hadn't agreed to write off our debt then it'd be a different story wouldn't it young Andy. We are doing the same as them, just on a smaller scale, are we not?

He told Buttner we wanted to challenge Man City. That suggest champions league football. 4th minimum, not 7th. Yes we could survive if we didn't have the Liebherrs money, but we wouldn't be where we are now. They've written off significant debt along the way, something you don't agree with.

Mrs Turkish reckons boat shoes are toff like, I disagree. Who is right?

Huddersfield - the new Saints?

Challenging for Europe in 3 years sounds doesn't sound like careful, gradual, well planned progress to me young Andy. Sounds like rapid progress which will be needed to be significantly funded somehow.

I agree with you on that. I thought that that money in the 'Saints go Wilde' era had come in from income via the various channels. Shows how screwed the clubs finances were when you think the money from Crouch, Walcott, Phillips, etc must have come to nearly £20m and we had to pawn the family silver for one sh*t or bust crack at promotion.

I would suggest it will be several years yet before we are anywhere near self sufficient, especially if Cortese wants to fulfill his vision and ambitions that he's been talking about. The only way this will happen is by following the model that you are so opposed to.

I'm not arguing against it Young Andy, I'm merely pointing out that that we have been dependant on wealthy owners and writing off debt as well to get to where we are and will continue to for a few years yet I'd imagine. The very thing you were saying was the wrong course of action. Whilst some, like yourself, blindly trot out the mantra that we have no debt and are superbly run, when the fact of the matter is we are dependant on our owners right now and have recorded large losses every year since Cortese has been here.

THey haven't done since the Liebherrs arrived,why do you think they are now when we are 7th biggest spenders in Europe, most of those have champions league money too?

And we've probably spent all of it already what with the training ground, transfers and wages we are paying out.

Yep and high, half way up the waist, often seen with a roll neck jumper instead of a shirt.

Wazs it a funny colour, like olive? I seem to remember coloured suits being fashionable at that time. As were brightly coloured mouflon jackets worn with chinos.

1988/89 season, right in front of me in the Milton Road end. I think it was his first penalty for us as well. Imagine the meltdown on here if we went a run like that.

With red socks and brown suede loafers.