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I stand to be correct and as i said above, it was from memory of when we moved there.

Based on comments when the stadium was built that it can be expanded by 12,000 if this was nessasary and only 3 of the 4 stands can be expanded. As for Brighton the point was you showed us a few pretty pictures of 8,000 or so seats, if we can only expand to 44k then we can only expand by 12,000, 4,000 seats more than them. 12,000- 8,000 = 4,000, yes?

We can only expand to 44k, so "45k (maybe more)" is bullsh*t from you as usual.

yes, i am absolutely sure they have. Which is why, despite the demands of some people on here, they aren't laying bricks and fitting chairs right now. It seems NC appears to side with the Dell sized mentality posters who would like to see a season or so of sell outs and a full 32k SMS before spunking millions on making it bigger. Does that make sense to you?

Hang on a minute. A lot of people claimed on here this was one of the best times in their Saints supporting lives, the team was brilliant and one of our best ever, we had record setting home form. Yet still we averaged 6,000 below capacity.

Thanks for the picture. Two small points though, the saints drawings were from the air, the Brighton ones were from Pitchside so impossible to tell from those angles which looks bigger. Also i'm pretty sure that the maximum St Marys can be expanded to is 44k. So even if our plans are so much bigger they are a waste of ink and paper as we can only add on 4,000 more seats than Brighton are doing anyway.

I didn't say i think we will. What i said was IF we only average 28k. Excuses used this season when we've had low attendances have been that we are in a tough economic climate, people struggle to make midweek games, the weather!!, transport issues, can only afford one game in a week, match is on telly, birthdays, holidays, christenings, ticket tax, the cost. Have these problems suddenly disappeared? Are we no longer in tough econmic times? Are no games going to be on the telly this season? Have prices been dramatically reduced and the ticket tax removed?

There is only any point having a bigger ground if you are confident you can fill it. What is the point in spending millions expanding something if we are only going to average 28k? What would you rather have a couple of £6m players or 12,000 empty seats?

WTF have Brighton got to do with anything?

Please explain the reasonable business case for the more rapid approach.

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Roy must have been listening to you Jamie.

As much as I hate to say it John terry has been very good as well.

Finally he's off after putting in his only half decent cross of the night.

Superb stuff John Terry.

It's not unfair. It's the truth, he's been terrible. He's contributed absolutely nothing apart from the miss against France.

Stay down Milner, theres a good lad.

Why not Andy?

so true.

F*cking Milner again. What a sh*t shot that was.

If only Gareth Barry hadn't got injured.

That literally is it. He can't dribble, can't cross, isn't quick, never scores, can't tackle and every pass is about 10 yards.

Why is he there? He couldnt cross the f*cking road.

He reads the mong boards, he'll see our tips.