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still a lot of money for a club in adminstration with debts of £110m is it not?

and for 90% of our fan base we have been above Pompey, Reading, Brighton & Bournemouth for most of our lifetimes. For a club of our size to be below them is embarassing. Forget all this i am proud of my club, i love my club, get behind the team FFS nonsense, for a club like Saints to be below little Bournemouth, a club who in years gone by we have played friendliess against to help them stay a float and a division below Portsmouth and Reading, is embarassing. the tables dont lie, the only teams worse than us in this area are Aldershot and Oxford at the moment.

talking of Pompeys players wages is Utaka still on £80k a week?

BTW dont think for a minute i am anti police or pro hooligan, no the police aren't responible for the actions of individuals, but they are responsible for preventing and solving crimes. Given the mass of experience, publicity and funding that goes into policing football i simply think that their tactics on the day were wrong. It didn't make MR x shake the fence, it didn't make Mr Z throw a stone and jump around a lot, but given the amount of publicity and arrests this whole thing has been given and as someone that was there on the day and witnessed the Riot of Freeborn garages first hand, i'd like to know why they employed the tactics that they did, given it is something most other police forces decided it is not wise to do. I do think that they know they got it wrong and throwing people into prison for shaking a fence is the knee jerk reaction to this.

I'd like too know, now they have their convictions, why they didn't do what every other police force in the country does and keep the away fans in. They were quick enough to claim the glory for the arrests, have the film crews follow them and enjoy all the publicity, they were quick to scaremonger with tales of how violent our youth are and they need to be crushed, they need to also explain their actions and why they thought letting two groups of fans who hate each other face each other within minutes of the final whistle was the correct course of action to take.

In a football related case a few years back, it took over a year from arrest to bring the case to court, for most of that time the guys on bail had to stay in their house for three hours before and 2 hours after every time their team played a game regardless of if it was home or away. For some, this involved leaving work two hours early to make sure they met their bail conditions for an evening game being played 150 miles away. Half of the people on this trial were aquitted, for those that weren't their ban started on the day of conviction, ignoring the fact that they had already been effectively not only been banned but under virtual house arrest during match times for a year already. how is this right?

Yes 2004. Ironically are we won away at Middlesbrough Redknapp came out and said "we had turned the corner" and also David Pleat said on radio he was "absolutely certain Southampton will stay up" we then go and lay down in front of Blackburn. We actually only won one more game all season, Norwich at home, which took a last minute winner. For me the game we got relegated was Villa at home, 2-0 up and crusing only to lost 3-2. After that any remaining confidence was well and truely crushed. The players looked liked frightened rabbits in the tunnel away to Pompey two games later. And we didn't win all out games in March, we won at home to Tottenham and away to 'boro but were smashed 4-0 at home by Man U in the FA Cup and only played two league games in that month.

Shaun Ryder is the sole reason to watch that.

Did you know profesional football also existed in this country before the Premier league began? Not that you'd know it from watching Sky Sports.

and in that one word you have summed it all up. It all seems a little bit hopeful. Hopeful that the team will click, hopeful that our away form will improve, hopeful that we can string a run of wins together, hopeful that we go up. Given the players we have the crowds we get and the financial backing we have we should hardly lose a game in this league, of course you will fom time to time but we have lost 6 of our first 16 games, more than a third. Over a season that is losing 17 games, which is poor for club which was supposed to win promtion at a canter. 10 place reflects where we deserve to be given our performances so far this season.

why dont you get them over written with "i'd give Louise Redknapp 1?"

If only the team, management and board over the last few years had consistantly matched the loyalty and passion of the fans.

It bothers me, i want us to be the top club in the area. Hate other clubs local clubs lording it over us.

if only Redknapp had brought on Higginbotham instead of Davenport when 2-0 up against Villa, We might have held on and not lost 2-3 FFS.

how did we only draw at home to Boro in 2005 when being 2-0 up going into injury time? We'd have stayed up on goal difference FFS.

and Saganowski, easier to score than hit the bar from 5 yards out. We should have known then not to sign him.

and Pele, if only he hadn't pulled Steve Howard back and given Derby a pen in the Play off semi final first leg.

watching the Meridan sports report. The only teams below in the area are Oxford and Aldershot. This is pretty embarassing given that we are the biggest club, have the biggest crowds and more financial backing than any of them.

So why does every other police force in the country have the rescources and deem it appropriate to do all they can too stop fans coming face to face minutes after the final whistle? This includes keep away fans in the ground. They do it with us everytime we visit Fratton Park.

this for me is utterly shameful. IMO no one should have their name released to the press until convicted or admitting guilt. Apart from as you say the whole thing about the basis of our judicial system being innocent until proven guilty (which is b******, if so why were they banned from SMS and the JPT final whilst on bail?) It also influnces the trial. Any memeber of the jury could pick up the echo and read the media embellished reports about what was supposed to have happened, what xxxx is being acussed of and it could influcence their verdict by what it in the written press. An associate of one of the jury might know one of the defendants and people talk, again that could and probably would influcence a verdict, we have seen on here how quick people are to judge, condemn and accuse without knowing any of the facts with some having a "lock um up and throw away the key" attitude. It seems to me the echo have glorified this whole sorry event, i have lost count of the amount of headlines this has given them and they have delighted in reporting every sentance. I am not for one minute saying that events should go unreported, but there is a police and media agenda to this whole thing, that much is obvious.

They did and it was an excellent article, 100% spot on.

I hope Linford Christie gets his c*ck out.

both very nice, Lolelani MchMicheal aint too shabby either...... http://www.fannation.com/blogs/post/393301-the-sexy-lokelani-mcmichael

say all you like about tactics, formations and form players, if you give away three goals because of poor defending you aint going to win many.

Answer the question, is it acceptable? Or should the police go to lengths to ensure no crime is commited, rather than let one be commited then arrest the criminal later? Like it or not and most of you wont, the police tactics were very questionable, i have never heard of a derby in the UK for 20 odd years where they have let fans out at the same time. Of course, this does not excuse that actions of those that go looking of for it, but anyone with any ounce of common sense knows that a team losing 1-4 at home in a derby against their bitter rivals means there is a strong possibility of some form of violence occuring and letting fans confront each other within minutes of the final whistle when emotions were still running high was making violence even more likely.