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I said exactly this after the world cup. the FA should forget about the Euros and build a team for 2014 with players like Wilshire, Rodwell, Johnson, etc a squad of 20 decent players who will be in their prime in 2014. Get rid of the likes of Lampard who has never performed for England and build for the future. If we qualify for Euros it's a bonus but put the team under no pressure to do so. It'll never happen though as the FA would lose too much money by us not qualifying which means we will limp from one disaster to the next. Euro 2012, if we qualify, will be as bad as the world cup and given we will have no whipping boys, we wont get out of the group stage.

yeah he you're right, got injured in training, just had a look on google, he is going to be our main central midfielder for years to come if he can stay clear if injuries.

It's interesting too note that most of the England players need two or three touches before deciding what too do with the ball, whereas the French players know immediately, plenty of movement, good first touches, then looking to move it on, Englands play is so slow and ponderous in comparison.

at least they didn't get Boggis. Nicknamed bang 'em up Boggis, although i think he may have retired now. Fingers crossed for those tomorrow.

Why didn't he pick Wilshire? He is quality. Also i like Cahill at Bolton, decent centre half, would give him a go and Smalling must be worth a punt, only played a few times for Man U but good prospect. Rodwell at Everton is a class young player too but only just back from injury.

excellent, finally a bit of common sense. How many more are there too go?

The same people that think Chaplow is a wide midfielder are the ones that during the summer thought Harding could play centre midfield and Lambert should play for England.

That lad Malouda playing for France tonight looks decent, who does he play for? I think he would be worth a bid.

FFS people need to move on.

Why do we need trialists? we are loaded, we can just go and buy who we want FFS.

Mikeal Nielson, slated on here, played in the world cup and champions league.

no you're right, international football is not the pinacle of a players of career, playing for Saints is.

What do you all you royalist traditionalists make of them living in sin before their wedding? If you want it that way surely she should be a virgin on her wedding day and still living with her parents. If she is wearing white is scandelous.

Another one missing the point of the thread. Fans slagged off Oakley, Ormerod and Davies when they were here, yes they were good enough, but at the time most fans thought they weren't FFS!!

what? You mean pretending they are Serge from Kasabian?

He was on loan for a bit. Quite ironic that he played for Brighton for a while

that is a bit of homophobic comment Baj. Are you going to infract yourself?

I struggled with a GK TBH, couldn't think of anyone else. Paul jones was the only other one and in hindsight a better choice, slagged off when here but still in goal for Wales when he was 40 and we were relegated.

i stand corrected, must have missed that, dont understand that at all, thought he was good for us! I do remember one dimwit shouting at Surman during a game when he was sitting with his girlfriend in the stands due to injury "oy Surman, this is the best game you've had all season" div.

He is fit and it cant be just conicidence that Pardew and Adkins haven't given him a run. IMO he deserves a chance, but their must be a reason why he is not being picked.

That is the point of this thread though, players fans said were crap but obviously weren't and proved this. Oakley deserves his place because although he played 300 games for us and was a quality player fans slagged him off all of the time, i remember it clearly. Claims that he is slow, contributes nothing, never scores, only passes sideways and backwards etc, i remember Dave Jones i think saying Oakley was the best footballer at the club and him being mocked for this. Turns out he was far off the mark.

That is exactly how i remember it too.

no one said he did?

seeing the news this morning it seems that the Yanks are all cracking one out about it already, a bloody fanfare on one of their new stations FFS. Be interesting too see how glamourous and ostentatious the wedding will be using vast amounts tax payers money at a time when people are losing their jobs and services are being cut.

sickening, my gradfather would turn in his grave.