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I expect you're right but is that speculation on your part or actual inside information? I haven't seen much to suggest we are looking at loans at this stage.

My problem is that the other person is not a woman. They are being punched in the face by a biological man. No surprise that you'd be OK with something like that.

I did define it. It was easy. I literally defined it. Your stance is the same as asking for the definition of hungry, me saying "feeling or showing the need for food" and then you coming back asking me for a definition of food. Nonsensical.

"you're content to see Muslim women and children killed and aimed daily in Palestine" you cretin you've got no evidence for that you're just eternally butthurt that I don't agree with you about Israel and have some sympathy for their aims and their people. I'm fully aware of your stance on the issue and we disagree. What the fuck does someone being Muslim have to do with anything? And I have no problem with any woman from any religion boxing other women. The problem is that this person is not one. Take it elsewhere.

Hold on. You asked for a definition and are now asking for further definitions of words. If I explain that an adult is someone over the age of 18 will you then ask me to define what age means?

I still don't consider it likely but it would improve our team a lot if it happened. Bednarek THB Taylor/Stephens With Sugawara and KWP as wing backs is not a half bad defence.

The evidence is the chromosome test and the quotes from the IBA and WBO officials as well as the Algerian Olympic commission who stated Khelif was like Semenya. As I'm sure you know, the IBA are unable to release the medicakcrecords without permission because they are confidential. For it not to be the case both officials woukd have to be lying and the official from Khelif's own federation. If it's a load of rubbish then why is Khelif not demanding the medical tests from the IBA are not made public at once to prove they aren't credible and faked? Why did Khelif not appeal to CAS and get this slur on their name publicly refused so there could be no doubt?

It is a worry. You get the feeling we are going to concede sooo many shitty goals. Will have to hope we have the creativity and firepower to cope.

I'm correcting misinformation on this thread that calls Khelif a biological woman. If that were true there would be no controversy. Khelif has not changed their gender, they are biologically male as I've explained with a DSD. Nothing to do with gender. The "mistake" as you call it robs women in sport and has the potential to cause serious injury or even death. It's dangerous and deeply unfair to women. That's why it's worth discussing.

I have the same interest in Palestinians as you do for Israeli hostages. Nothing to do with this topic though. Maybe go and drone on about it on a relevant thread?

Adult female human. It's incredibly easy.

That's a lie. Khelif was not banned after fighting a Russian. The other fighter who was also banned has never fought a Russian. At the same tournament another fighter prevented a Russian from winning the gold yet was never banned. Why the discrepancy? Why pick on and invent results for a ban for two random fighters for no reason? If there was no due process why would you not appeal it immediately to CAS? Why accept the conclusion of the IBA without an appeal? There is no evidence that the IBA were banned for anything to do with faulty chromosome tests, in fact there's no evidence that any tests of that nature have ever been faulty. "she passed all of the tests before the Olympics" - what does that mean? The IOC regulations themselves state that the only way they check eligibility is if they have a female marker on their passport. So in reality there were no "tests" for the fighter to pass other than the chromosome test from the ibo which they failed. How good they are at boxing is entirely irrelevant and doesn't mean there is no advantage. The Algerian OC stated they were "like Caster Semenya". Caster Semenya is 5-ARD, a DSD that exclusively occurs in biological males. Caster Semenya has fathered children. If - as seems likely due to the chromosome test, the quote from officials at the IBO, WBO and the Algerian OC - that Khelif has the DSD 46XY - 5ARD, then this means that while in their mother's womb, their genitalia failed to develop appropriately. Khelif was wrongly assumed to be female at birth due to malformed male genitals. As a result of DSD, Khelif may have believed they were a girl in early childhood. At puberty, their actual sex would have become blindingly obvious. By now, Khelif knows without question that they are biologically male.

It's fine to disagree. I just think it was possible to provide a few more opportunities for SAA at certain points last season. Imo he had a bit more about him than some of our older players.

That sounds like a terrible idea.

I would never want cost of a player to determine if they get played or not.

I was never certain of promotion. I was saying that giving SAA a few minutes to show what he could do over someone like Sulemana on the odd occasion wouldn't have changed the outcome for promotion. We were terrible in 2008 because we had no choice but to play multiple kids in every game because there was no one else. That's not the same thing.

Hope they win. Should bring more attention to the farce and prevent it from happening in the future.

That was my point. I completely agree.

That's ridiculous logic. Martin himself has said he's made mistakes, maybe this was another one. His judgement isn't infallible. There's no indication at all that signing or not signing Rothwell was the reason for our promotion. It had virtually no difference. End of the day promotion is the ultimate aim, it's just a shame in my opinion that he didn't give more opportunities to SAA as I don't believe it would have changed the outcome of promotion.

What evidence do you have that they did chromosome testing on them in a previous year and didn't disqualify them? What possible reason would the IBA have to fake results against two random athletes?

You don't have a fucking clue what I care about you mong.

No one said Martin doesn't play youngsters.

He was dropped and subsequently never seen again after one poor performance. In the meantime we brought in Rothwell who was another player preventing him from getting any chances.

It's a subject worth caring about when women are getting punched in the face.

No. Signing Rothwell to block the pathway of a youngster didn't work. The ultimate aim of getting promoted did but that had nothing to do with it.