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It's not that I particularly disagree (though maybe a bit of an exaggeration) but my only beef was with the person saying that Taylor was a poor signing. Whether he's sufficient to strengthen the squad on his own to the extent that he keeps us up is a different question (clearly not).

The sluggish part will be referring to the huge lack of quality in attacking positions and goalkeeper. To take it to extremes to make a point, would you be describing the management as busy if they'd solely signed players for Göztepe and none for us? The only players thsy count are the ones we bring in for our squad. The fact they may have done work to sign players for other teams is utterly irrelevant.

I don't expect anyone to agree. I just asked if someone could define what a woman was. Seems it was an incredibly difficult question seeing as no one has been able to answer.

I'm the idiot yet you're the one who can't define what a woman is or tell me how many genders there are.

The reason they don't agree is because the IOC stopped sex testing athletes in 1999, instead deferring to individual sporting bodies but there is no formal oversight body for boxing which has never happened before so the IOC has created an adhoc boxing unit to oversee eligibility that has no guidelines for gender eligibility and has apparently been allowing boxers to compete as females if they have gender markers on their passports.

Yes because you were never able to answer what a woman is. You claimed to be unable to formulate a definition and were unable to tell me who should formulate a working definition in the meantime. It's absurd. There's no such thing as acting like a man or acting like a woman. If I decide to wear a dress and act in a way that I believe women act I'm still a biological man. Gender is invented bullshit full of offensive stereotypes. You can act in whatever manner you choose, it doesn't make you a new type of gender.

Goodness me. This absolutely should not be communicated to children under any circumstances. Do any children in your care ever ask you what a woman is? Do you tell them it's too complex to answer? No wonder we have so many messed up children with so many bizarre definitions.

Those pesky restrictive things like asking for definitions again. Tricky.

How many genders are there?

Saw the trampolining earlier. I found it odd that the routines seemed to consist of about 4 jumps. Thought it would go on longer than about twenty seconds even though there's no doubt it's difficult.

Got stuck behind people. For a race that short and so dependent on luck, you think you'd do best of three or something.

What's that based on?

I don't think you can seriously count the players we have signed for the Turkish team. None of them are going to play for us this year.

Imane Khalif was cleared to compete at the 2024 Olympics having earlier failed a testosterone level test, but her opponent Angela Carini made an early exit during a first round meeting Khelif was disqualified during the boxing world championships last year after "elevated levels of testosterone failed to meet the eligibility criteria," according to the IOC's website.

Had they just proceeded at the CAS, they would have not only had a definitive record that they were female but they likely could have had a settlement of some kind as compensation for their denial of opportunity. Almost no reason not to do this other than the conspiracy theory you've come up with in your response which seems wildly less plausible. What possible reason would they have to induce the athlete not to appeal? Why would the IBA lie in the first place? Khalif has high levels of testosterone. If they have XY as alleged but they don't identify as transgender then that only really leaves one option.

That isn't the issue according to the podcast I posted above and the FAQ I posted from the woman who broke the story.

Khelif and Lin are not believed to be transgender, and @ReduxxMag made that VERY clear in our July 28 article. They are believed to be impacted by a Difference of Sexual Development, in which there is a developmental abnormality in secondary sex characteristics. This is a medical condition which can manifest with children being born with ambiguous or disfigured genitalia. Male children impacted by DSDs are often "assigned female at birth" due to these genital defects, as there is a genuine assumption they are girls. Thus, their identification documents would be completely irrelevant in this case. As is the fact they were "raised as girls." That's entirely expected for male children with DSDs. Even more so for male children with DSDs in socially conservative countries. Is a boy without a penis more likely to be raised as a boy or a girl? Exactly. Over the last 72 hours, the IBA has released two separate statements confirming that Khelif and Lin were not subject to testosterone testing, but had instead been subjected to a separate test validated by two independent laboratories. That test confirmed they were not eligible to compete in women's boxing as per the IBA guidelines. Crucially, the IBA defines "woman" as "an individual with XX chromosomes." In their guidelines, they also indicate that the gender tests they use to determine if a person is eligible to compete with women is a chromosomal test, not a hormone test. In their second statement, the IBA condemned the IOC for allowing Khelif and Lin to proceed as they believed it was putting female boxers at risk and that they did not support "boxing between the genders." The Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) is a fully independent tribunal which oversees all disputes in elite athletics. Every athlete has a right to bring a case to the CAS. Lin did not challenge the disqualification. Khelif challenged the disqualification but withdrew the appeal before it could proceed through the court. Please ask yourself why. If they were genuinely female, why would they have chosen to refuse their opportunity to establish that in an irrefutable and legally binding way at a fully independent venue? Literally none of this would have happened had they simply submitted their tests to the CAS. Buuuut... Consider that all decisions at the CAS are public information. It was through a CAS challenge that the world became aware that Caster Semenya had XY chromosomes, for example. If Khelif and Lin had proceeded through the CAS, there would have been irrefutable evidence, documented by an independent body, that they were either male or female. So why? Why did they not want the CAS to examine their tests? Why did they not want this information to be public? I think the reason is obvious. The IOC has long had an issue with the IBA because the IBA has refused to disqualify Russian athletes on the basis of their national identity. Claims of the IBA's "corruption" can basically be summarized to "Russia bad, Russians evil." The IBA has literally no history of bullshitting about the sex of boxers involved and it doesn't benefit them in any kind of way to do so.

Yet you're replying on the thread about it. You're absolutely free to just not respond. I've just watched gb win a silver in the pool so quite capable of watching that and typing on here.

The IBA claimed that Khalif has XY chromosomes. Khalif had the opportunity to appeal this decision to the independent CAS to irrefutably prove this to be a lie but decided not to do so. Why not? I assume you will be unable to define what a woman is either.

I think it is rather sluggish in certain positions but I can understand why getting quality in might be hard. If we get the players in eventually then fair enough but if not it would be hard not to be at least slightly critical.

The IBA say the opposite. Why would they lie? For what purpose? If they had made up the test why would the athletes accept it and not appeal? I'd be interested to hear your opinion on this if you get the opportunity to listen: https://podcasts.apple.com/za/podcast/paris-special-episode-males-are-about-to-fight-in-womens/id1461719225?i=1000664021676

Really good science of sport podcast from a noted sports scientist. Explains why this athlete is a man: https://podcasts.apple.com/za/podcast/paris-special-episode-males-are-about-to-fight-in-womens/id1461719225?i=1000664021676

Had another look into this and it appears that there is an IBA dna test that was not disputed by the athlete which is where the claim about XY chromosomes comes from. The ioc statement today rather contradicts that. If I were the athlete and the IBA are incorrect then I'd probably sue them. There's a few academics suggesting Khelif is 46XY 5ARD which would make them genetically male but this could be incorrect. This is an interesting article: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34290981

I wasn't arguing against an independent finding. A statement was released that I read earlier today which said she is a biological woman so doesn't have XY chromosomes. That is different from what was reported yesterday. That's an entirely separate issue from what a woman is. No one asked for a stupid definition of what a woman is, I simply asked if he had any definition at all and he's said that he isn't capable of providing an adequate one.

I didn't make it up. I provided an answer to that post but it seems it's been removed when the topic was moved to its own thread. It may be the case that things have been misreported from yesterday. We may have to wait and see.