hypochondriac

but that wasn't what alpine said in his original post. Would I laugh at alpine if saints are awful in a game or two next year? Of course not. What about the croatia performances? It is a ridiculous statement to make on the strength of 2 poor games

Lol at Alpine thinking that despite England playing badly that SFC are better than them.

Have hated Rooney for ages and said so a couple of months back only to be shouted down on here. Utter w*nker who is removed from reality. Was one of if not the worst England player tonight. If we don't play Joe Cole against Slovenia then I give up.

Nice to see a growing number who recognise the contempt shown by the club towards the fans.

Totally agree.

He needed 25% against.

That really is the key point to it all. If these decisions which I disagree with were explained then I doubt I would have much of an issue.

So basically the lesson for other clubs is if you owe HMRC 10 million, make sure to increase all other debts to over 40 million and you can get a CVA passed with no points deduction. Cheats.

I would imagine that will be the case yes. Hopefully then that will open people's eyes.

IMO I would have probably left it by now had the club properly explained their actions. Just ignoring the fans and doing what they like is pretty concerning.

That will be a big indicator IMO. If there is not one (or tickets are controlled in some way so that only people chosen are invited) then that will be the time that I get even more worried and I hope a few others may express similar feelings to myself.

So Stu is it just a case of allowing this to happen and doing nothing? What happens when they try it on again in future?

How many people were aware of the deal to buy SFC and how many have 12 million disposable income to buy something and the time or motivation to actually run the thing. How much has Liebherr invested OF HIS OWN MONEY save the original purchase price and how much has the club simply invested money earnt from last season? I'm not discussing this further with you up and away because our opinions differ so greatly but just thought you would like to know that unsurprisingly I think you are totally wrong.

I hope you replied Stu.

Don't bother with this thread Stu, it's not worth it.

Is it not possible to let down your customers in more than one way then? Kudos for the good winning football of course, but does that then mean they are above criticism for the handling of other areas of the club?

I give up with you up and away as I have done so many other times down the years. If you resolutely refuse to consider another point of view then there is no point in discussing it.

What other club apart from Southampton could you have bought for 12 million with all the assets and geographic location that Southampton has? For 12 million there is simply no better deal in football that I can think of.

It isn't just about the money for Markus but it is the primary factor IMO. The amount of profit he makes being a tiny amount of his overall worth is totally irrelevant. If I had a million quid but found a way of making £1,000 would I turn it down? Of course not. Also it appears to be entirely about money for Cortese. Why else would he be here?

What would you value Saints as? Do you not think people would be interested should we get to the Prem? We have infinitely more appeal than Pompey, Hull, Burnley, Boro, even the likes of Birmingham, Blackburn and Stoke.

I can't be bothered to debate with up and away. I apologise because my comment goes against the spirit of the thread but I'm simply not going to comment on up and away because it's like banging my head against a wall.

I agree with Stu...

TBF Americans are good allies to have.

If you reach any conclusions then feel free to let me know. If you want to discuss this thread then go ahead.

Cheers. They go for about 250-270 on ebay but thought I would do a saints fan a favour.