hypochondriac

Even third means your point was wrong.

I can't recall us being higher than 4th in this league.

I would like a pic.

I think what we need to ask here is does nickh own a strip club?

Why does every still think that this is about the five pound charge?

I would like it to be known that following this thread I do not want to be assosciated with Stanley in any way.

No it isn't and I know the policeman in charge.

And when those questions/complaints are reacted to in an aggressive and dismissive manner, well how are people meant to feel?

What has that got to do with anything?

I do wish that Wotte would just stick to matters on the pitch.

Anyway Baj I won't go on about it anymore I'll just reply if people make any comments on what I've written. As Stanley says you are probably frustrated today but maybe let Granty deal with customer relations from now on . Feel free to discuss any issue with me via PM.

Oh you mean when I called you an arrogant arsehole about six months ago and then apologised both in public and in private? And I wasn't talking about TSW, I was talking about S4E quite a while back which had little problems as far as I can remember. Just remember that a little bit of courtesy to your customers goes a long way.

Here is my issue just in case I didn't make myself clear. You pay money for a service which was originally free with assurances that the experience would be improved. Almost a year gone and the situation shows little sign of improving. Fair enough I think but to then come on here and be aggressive and rude to the people who have paid the money when they dare to complain when it seems like not a lot has improved is unfair IMO. I mean do the admin want people to renew or not?

I don't even mind really about the server but the attitude of the admin on this forum stinks and it gets people's backs up.

If previous experience and replies to old PMs is anything to go by then I doubt that very much. The server issues would be a lot easier to deal with if it didn't feel like users were being dismissed all the time and talked down to.

My issue is really the aggressive nature of Baj's replies and also the fact that he believes that there has been some vast improvement to the server when I can barely remember any crashes back in the day. I also have an issue with the "it's only a fiver so don't expect much" brigade. At the very least I would expect an improvement on the S4E days when the same service was provided free of charge.

I think you are confusing S4E meaning saintsforever, the original version of this website with 4ES meaning foreversaints which is something completely different. If you weren't around to use saintsforever then you can't really comment.

And my point was that we got a forum very very similar to this for free a couple of years ago. If nothing improves (and it ISN'T better than S4E) then why are they charging at all (I gave voluntarily to S4E but making people pay to a fiver to use the forum properly is totally different.)

I agree. I turned up expecting a good game but apart from the very first minute, I don't remember us having a chance.

This site is so popular mainly because of the legacy of S4E. Now there was a good site before it went downhill towards the end.

The amount of money is irrelevant. We pay the money for a service which currently is not being provided. People who say "well it's only a fiver" are missing the point.

FFS it has nothing at all to do with the amount of money.

What about before when it was free?

Definitely good backup.

I'm going with 2 mates.