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Afghanistan is not currently at war with the west. They have some terrible people in charge but that's for the to sort out. I don't want to go into some conversation about what trump is or is not responsible for because it's boring and there's arguments on both sides. It doesn't need saying but Trump has loads of faults but he didn't drag America into loads of wars unlike many other presidents which was my point. Whether he was responsible for leaving Afghanistan in the manner they did doesn't change that.

I'm not going into the details of that but it didn't happen under trump and even if he was responsible for it, it's got little to do with peace which is what I was talking about.

Maybe but it worked pretty well during his first term. It certainly wasn't anywhere near as bad as most predicted (admittedly not all down to him tbf).

You made that comparison when you misread a picture of neville chamberlain.

A more interesting question is how much would they invade and occupy if they had the capability to do so?

We laugh but Trump actually kept a lot of peace. Primarily because he was a loose cannon and that uncertainty made people nervous. Being a headcase can have it's advantages on occasion.

I think it's fair to say there's religious loons on both sides. The whole conflict is in some way due to religion.

Do you have evidence that Palestinians are native to Palestine?

He's doing neither. He's suggesting that like Neville, he's coming out with soundbites that make people feel good but which has no effect on the reality. You can use all the nice words you like but when Hamas is never ever going to agree on these terms, it's all hot air.

I'm not sure why this is being argued. It's indisputable that people are dying including children. The actual numbers aren't really relevant to the discussion.

Of course peace would be nice. I'm not sure anyone would disagree with that. I'm not sure why anyone is bothering to discuss something that isn't going to happen. Hopefully once Hamas has largely been destroyed, there can be some steps to improve things and move more towards some future peace but I doubt it will happen in our lifetimes sadly.

That post didn't mention the organisers. Imo the organisers should have no say in whether this goes ahead or not given that many of them have links to a terrorist group.

What was the name of the Liverpool supporter with the godfather avatar? Was it the don?

That's because someone found out his name was Steve rose who worked for a toy company. He scarpered after that.

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Does he drink less?

Lucky bloke. I was absolutely soaked and wore a chunky goody that suddenly became very heavy. Memorable game though!

A very important twitter thread that everyone should read.

Goodness. In a totally unexpected development, it appears that half the people organising this peace march on Saturday have links to Hamas. That's quite a different narrative from what you were posting about last week @egg. I assume you're concerned by this revelation? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/11/06/former-hamas-chief-behind-pro-palestine-armistice-day-march/#:~:text=Muhammad Kathem Sawalha led the,in a London council house.

A friend just reminded me of this brilliant away day that we went to 14 years ago on Saturday. Was anyone else there? Hoping for a similar type of outcome this Saturday https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/4733020.bristol-rovers-2-southampton-3/

Good to see the Met coming out now and saying the obvious - that protests are wholly inappropriate this weekend. Assuming any of these protests are genuinely designed to be peaceful and to avoid any sort of clashes, you would assume that the organisers will respond to the police request and cancel any action. To do otherwise would suggest they do want to cause disruption and disorder.

It's interesting how these many, thousands of people were not out on the streets protesting to anywhere near the same extent when many more Muslims were being killed in Yemen or Syria for example. I wonder what it is about this lot of killings in particular that has inspired such protest? Hmm.

And sure as night follows day. Let's cross our fingers for no ugly scenes but anyone saying this so called protest isn't designed to provoke something like this is living on another planet

Exactly. And if anything Iran is more of a serious threat. The idea that Palestine would just play nice if Israel hadn't take steps to defend itself is a nonsense.

Yes but it's not like it wasn't entirely predictable.