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TBF Liechtenstein seem to have improved.

I haven't "failed" I'm just not going trawling through the forum without a search function in order to find posts that I and others have confirmed existed at the time in order to prove something to some bloke on the Internet that's trying to goad me into wasting my time. Believe what you want, it's clear from multiple posters now that it happened and its likely to happen again with future signings. It's OK to be wrong. Go and enjoy your Sunday.

When you've got three or four posters telling you that's exactly how it was, I'd suggest you may want to consider the possibility that you are wrong...

Of course it is possible but the risk we took was that we'd get relegated whilst waiting for some of these players to get to the required standard. Fair play to the club they've got a bit of stability this year and we have improved but it's early days yet.

I don't need to prove you wrong and as this forum no longer has a search facility I wouldn't be able to trawl through past posts even if I wanted to. What I posted is true because I made reference to it at the time as it's not the first time it's happened. Plenty of posters get annoyed at other posters if they dare to suggest that a signing might not be the best option we could have made. I see I'm not the only poster who remembers exactly what was said.

Plenty of posters on here accused myself and others of writing him off when we said he was an underwhelming signing and that the evidence didn't look promising that he would be the first choice starter we needed.

And again, saying you are underwhelmed at a signing or pointing to them potentially not being very good based on their previous record and fan reports is not writing someone off. I'm not sure why that's difficult for some posters on here to grasp. Some signings will seem underwhelming and be terrible like Carillo, some will be much better than expected like Pelle, Mane and possibly Lyanco.

It happens with every signing that isn't received with universal positivity. I'm not sure why it needs to be said but every single signing we make has the pote tial to be amazing but that doesn't mean you can't give an opinion about the signing prior to the performance. It's odd.

Or maybe they were commenting on the previous reports on the player like every signing we have ever made? Absolutely bizarre that some seem to think you can't have an initial impression of a signing prior to playing for us.

And TBF I never claimed it was unreasonable, simply that that isn't what kraken was saying. Kraken makes a good point about the value of self resilience and I completely agree that there's a real value in it. Professional help or talking about feelings is not the only solution and should not be viewed as a magic bullet for the reasons already discussed in this thread. Just worth emphasising that.

Because kraken didn't say don't seek professional help if you have suicidal thoughts. He made an interesting point about dealing with any issues he has and the point he has made has been misinterpreted. Unfortunate that you're trying to derail the thread which had been quite a good discussion up until this point. Maybe take some of your own advice.

Why are you talking about suicidal thoughts? Kraken didn't mention that.

I could understand that. There's a line of thinking where you could just lock them in a cage and let them go at it as long as they're consenting and not hurting others.

And I haven't been which is why in almost every post I've caveated by explaining that talking and crying is a valid option for some. Not sure how I've dismissed it. It's clearly of value to some.

No. I was facing the family of a young person who had died in horrible circumstances. I rightly reasoned that the funeral wasn't about me upstaging things or making it about melyself in any way. Nothing to do with pride or ego.

But I've never said "all men" have I? Sure for some men they might fancy a chat about their feelings or a cry but I'd wager that's probably the minority and I think it's worth acknowledging that there are other perfectly healthy ways that men cure mental health issues that don't involve chatting or crying.

Depends doesn't it. I'd normally have a quiet cry but I'd probably resist the urge to start bawling my eyes out or wailing. Interesting because I attended a funeral this week and faced that very situation.

Not all men release negative feelings by discussing how they are feeling all the time. Look at boxing for example and the amount of men who have credited it with saving their lives. So yes better to release your emotions, it's just not always necessary to achieve that by talking about them and having a cry.

Men are less likely to express their emotions because they often don't want to share their emotions in the same way that women do. Many men don't want to be lectured about expressing their emotions all the time. They relieve stress and overcome adversity in different ways to women on average.

The only thing I would say is that the reluctance for some men to cry being linked to high rates of male suicide is a load of b*locks in my opinion. If you had a load of blokes weeping at every bit of adversity I'd feel a bit unnerved. Enduring and showing a bit of resilience can in the long run actually be beneficial to mental health because it can equip you with the tools required to endure difficult times. It's just another example of people looking for feminine solutions to a male problem and it's why it's laughable to pretend that male and female mental health is all the same thing and all require the same solutions.

I'll be honest I really didn't care about Ralph crying. The only thing I thought was that it suggested he had a bit of a small time mentality if he got that emotional about something that really wasn't the biggest deal ever.

This is one reason you get people's backs up. You talk with such a degree of certainty about something and you don't imagine there are any shades of grey. Yes it may be the case that professional help was best for you but that doesn't mean that that's the best or only option. You don't get to dismiss the real mental health issues of men by suggesting that the problems for all sexes are the same and that the solutions will be universal for both male and female. That imo is the main problem in the first place and the reason we see the cast disparity between make and female suicide rates. People like you don't want to treat male mental health issues as a specific problem that requires a range of solutions and you don't want to face up to the fact that if men were valued more rather than abused or laughed at that the problem would be lessened. Not sure why I tried to reply to you sensibly as you would think I would have learnt by now.

I did think about that as I typed those words!

Some of its a bit high brow but I thought the idea of viewing the bible as a valuable book of wisdom passed down over a great period of time that contains universal truths to be really interesting and it made me look at Christianity differently. It's certainly a more relatable way to look at things than the idea that most of the stuff described in it ever actually happened.

Absolutely. One thing he has quoted often is about Scandinavia and how the differences between the seces are more pronounced when people are given more choice. No matter how much some people try to pretend that being gender fluid exists and that everything is a social construct we can't deny the differences between the sexes. The attempt to do so is behind many of the mental health issues and the problems in society.