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Again I never disputed thst as a potential outcome. In fact I said the opposite mate.

I didn't comment on what 'this' has anything to do with. I said that if there is an outcome that means they can get anywhere close to how things used to be then that could be a good thing.

I think we can all agree that what happened to Iran from when it was liberal and progressive to what it is like now is absolutely tragic. If there's a way to get back to anything approaching that it would be a very good thing. Could well be the case that things get worse though obviously.

I'm sure they do and never suggested otherwise.

That's because soggy has a history of just meeting people talking about the topic at hand. I have never said anything like that before but thought it was worth mentioning given it had just come up. It could be a load of bollocks I just noticed she had a foreign accent and asked where she was from and I asked if she had family in Iran and that was the extent of the conversation. Believe it or not I'm not overly bothered. If she'd said the Iranian people wanted Trump to leave them alone I'd have posted that too

Spoke to an Iranian work colleague yesterday with family in Iran. She said everyone was waiting for Trump to save them.

That's very disingenuous. No one has suggested that the Green vote is solely comprised of Muslims.

People crave authenticity. I might disagree with everything Karl Turner says but every time I've listened to him speak it's engaging, heartfelt and real. There's other considerations ns of course but that sort of thing will go a long way towards winning someone's vote.

I'm happy for you though. Or sorry it happened.

Karl Turner MP is a cracking bloke and might actually persuade me to vote Labour if he were my MP.

Or it was just mentioned maybe that something seemed to be off but they didn't think it was a serious enough matter to escalate further? There's usually context to these things.

That's not really comparable to this alleged situation is it.

Well someone is lying then. Seems an odd thing to make up though unless they are just trying to undermine the vote.

How would Manchester Council know what they told an official at a polling station?

I read on social media -could be wrong-that they had responded to say that they had reported it to the polling stations at the times it occurred.

You would imagine a lot of them voted in the GE and like you say I doubt many more of them voted. They just likely switched their vote to the Greens.

Yeah I don't subscribe to that I'm afraid. I work with many Muslims, my father in law and his family are Muslim and on an individual level they are kind and as far as I can tell good people who I don't have a problem with. It very clearly isn't all Muslims but it is enough of a group who claim to be Muslim that it is a problem. Failure to integrate is a huge issue admitted by honest people on the left and the right.

As it happens I agree. Not helpful to stereotype every Muslim voter. The issue of block voting is serious enough without allowing people to dismiss it by exaggerating the problem.

That's why I said it is a hope but certainly not an expectation. TBF Labour haven't currently adopted it but look set to do so.

When I see groups of Jewish men raping young British girls on a mass scale across the UK and doing things like branding them with the star of David on their buttocks and quoting verses from the Torah as justification for their actions with police forces turning a blind eye for fear of being branded antisemitic then I'd consider that more of a pertinent problem to our country. There's a legitimate argument that antisemitism could be used to silence legitimate criticism of actual atrocities committed in Gaza which I would not support but it's also less relevant to my country which is what I care about most (plus there are other factors in that but I'm not revisiting that here.)

At least if the vote were truly secret you could get away with voting for whoever you wanted without repercussions.

They'd get the same answer from me if they tried to get me to wear a burkha but I'm not an Arab woman under a religiously dogmatic form of a patriarchy so it's easy for me to say.

Because the word and its misapplication has been used to silence criticism of Islam and was a contributing factor to a climate that led to rape gangs in the UK. Of course words and definitions of words matter. As the article I posted argues, there's a decent argument for not having a specific definition due to the potential for harm there is. We know for example that discrimination against all faiths can occur but we don't have an official working definition of Christianophobia or Sikhaphobia- we prosecute people who commit those crimes under existing public order and equality acts.

I may have got it wrong but I thought it meant that more than one person had gone into the polling station presumably family members in order to ensure that other family members were voting the correct way. Is that right?

I know it's social media but the quote I saw this morning was that the observers had mentioned it to the polling stations at the time.