hypochondriac

I'm 100% in favour of Spain making a fuss and bringing in tougher laws to protect their native population from ex pats. It's their country and they would be completely within their rights to do so.

Cool that's pretty non controversial. His language wasn't great and possibly stupid - though I'd argue it doesn't provide evidence that he hates Brown people - but his underlying point was correct.

Where has he said he hates brown people? His underlying point was the same as the one I agreed with.

Can you have concerns about the rate of demographic change and about a large influx of foreigners without being accused of not liking brown people? I have concerns about the rate of change over the last twenty years but the idea that I hate brown people is clearly a nonsense.

Ratcliffe got his figures very wrong which undermines his point and makes him look a bit silly. The underlying observation - that Britain has changed dramatically, that some places look nothing like they did a generation ago and that the rate of change has been drastic - is real enough.

Here's soggy on his holiday in Nigeria.

If you went to Nigeria and you saw that white faces were massively over represented in adverts, at the very least you'd consider it rather odd and worthy of comment.

What a loony.

And the PM never actually asking the questions he's asked. Mostly a waste of time.

Fair enough. I think that broadly universities should be strongly in favour of hearing views from legitimate people that some may find objectionable or even offensive. It's terrible that some students don't hear opposing points of view. I thought the Tories introduced something alongside the free speech union to prevent this sort of thing happening but it was shelved when labour came in. I could be wrong about that.

I want the university to pressure the debating society in order to avoid embarrassing proclamations that damage their reputation regardless of what a politician puts on social media. I don't think it's worth panicking about a stupid comment on social media. Richard Toce isn't Trump and even if he was looking to do that, I don't believe the system would allow him to remove funding and he won't be in a position to do that for years, by which time the students involved will have left anyway. The principle of universities standing up for free speech and challenging students that want to shut down debate is a good one although I don't necessarily support comments on social media however flippant I consider them to be.

TBF something radical like that might be the only thing that could save him. We'd bicker about that for two years and not talk about how useless Labour are.

That's one of the least controversial things someone from reform has said.Noticing reality.

I get that but let's be honest it's a flippant comment made on social media years before he has any chance of power. I think it's incredibly unlikely that he will actually end up removing funding from universities. I think his point was more that the threat of something like that would be enough to reverse course. I'd much prefer that the university itself is having words with these societies to prevent stuff like this because it's a terrible look for their reputation if nothing else.

I disagree. I thought it was interesting to hear the perspective because I like to hear different points of view even if I strongly disagree. His argument seems to be that he wants very strong immigration and even if he thinks deporting everyone is unlikely, he believes that by aiming for that he's likely to get stronger policies. I can sympathise with someone who is upset at the rate and amount of demographic change but I certainly don't agree with what he sees as a solution. I thought the podcast hosts made some decent counter points too.

Yeah I definitely read that before.

Its why long form podcast discussions have become so huge online. All sorts of potentially controversial people with more extreme views get a fair hearing where they aren't asked gotcha questions and are given a chance for their views to be aired. Recently there was a bloke doing the podcast rounds who wants to deport every person with a non English parent. I disagreed with almost everything he said (not least because my wife and children would be gone.) but I was pleased he was given the chance to be questioned properly and to hear his view. He definitely wouldn't have been allowed to talk if he was on mainstream media- he would have been silenced and shouted down.

You would think that the University itself would understand the importance of debate with those you disagree with and would be putting pressure on the society itself not take actions like this.

Nice to make some positive records for a change! We need to use this as a springboard now to actually achieve something this season or all this will be is a trivia question in a few years.

Yeah but let's enjoy this today. This happens so infrequently and especially to saints. I'd start Archer in the cup in the hope that he maybe gets a bit of confidence.

I fucking hate Leicester. So pleased we did it against them. Unreal.

Oh my god.

Not even in the prem? You have more patience than me.

Wouldn't surprise me if he makes no changes till 60 minutes.

I'm inexperienced for a football manager but I'd make a bloody change early if it's obviously going badly wrong.