hypochondriac

Weird how people look at things. I couldn't disagree more. I'm not going to check back individual results but we were the superior team against Wrexham, Charlton, Coventry, Arsenal, QPR, Norwich in red hot form etc. You don't go on the longest winning streak in the league and beat Arsenal to get to the FA cup semi by luck.

That an incredibly odd way to look at it!

Just tie them up in legal appeals for so long that by the time the six monthh ban comes In we will have already been promoted.

The agreement was that he gets another year extension after the end of the season but due to spygate he was allowed to declare that agreement void.

Except that we had and that would contradict what Tonda has said recently.

Exactly. And they won't want people panicking unnecessarily if they are still hopeful of a reduced punishment.

In fact given the time it is taking, I am inclined to believe that we have lodged an appeal and that is why we haven't heard anything.

You can think the punishments we have received to be totally fair or even not harsh enough but I think absolutely everyone can agree that the time it has taken to reach a resolution is obscene. Actually beyond a joke now.

I could see him possibly joining West Ham TBF

Fair to say it's unlikely to come today now.

I'm fine with him not coming here. The issue is we will now need to spend some proper money in a position that we could have sorted for no transfer outlay. It's also a risk getting in an unknown. We can't afford another damion downs and it's really important we get someone in who can perform at least reasonably in this league.

Normally you need some sort of evidence to come to that conclusion. I've seen nothing to suggest that we didn't want him and a fair bit to suggest we did, we just didn't want to offer him a longer contract given his history.

Not sure why as he wouldn't be playing in the prem anyway.

What lines?

Absolutely bizarre that he'd rather be there than here

@MBany update ?

Come on you bastards tell us what we are looking at today.

Good post. And really you can argue about our punishment but clearly they didn't want this practice to ever happen again so from their perspective it's mission accomplished. That why I don't think they need to unnecessarily hammer Tonda because no one is going to be doing anything like this again unless they have a death wish. I know it's a punishment to him as an individual but if it was overly harsh it effectively punishes us too and they will know that prior to giving out the punishment.

As long as we don't see him signing a Liverpool shirt or trying to take out a full page goodbye in the echo I'll stay hopeful.

At least that suggests it's just a touchline ban.

This is great news if true. I assume it means Tonda stays as manager which is the main thing.

I think more than six games and we should be appealing.

People never learn and always read too much into preseason results and performances. I've seen saints play terribly in preseason and look quite good at the start of the season and vice versa. I really don't think it means much. We do need an alternative to Larin though.

Would a touchline ban include friendlies? Surely they will have to say something at the end of the game.

I know someone who knows people in the club and the message I got from him was that no one in the club is expecting a substantial ban. I know that doesn't mean much given the club never expected our previous punishment but maybe slightly reassuring.