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Lots of racist chanting, nazi salutes and signs. Pretty disgusting tbh I hope uefa takes proper action.

Exactly. Absolutely no one has said that there isn't racism in football in places like Bulgaria. There undoubtedly is and it needs sorting.

Looking like another superb season of abject mediocrity in the third division. Splendid and tremendous.

She agrees that we should ban cars, stop flying, ban gas heating and ration meat within the next 6 years. She then ends with "we put a man on the moon!" Fruit loop.

I accept your apology. You messed up and it's OK to admit that.

Lol! You can't read pal.

That's going to differ on an individual basis. For most people it will be somewhere between a 15 year old being packed off to war in 1914 and some of your commie mates crying because the server burnt their avocado toast.

Seems you didn't read what I wrote. Modern society that is economically prosperous with a "certain level" of adversity will still be hundreds of times better than previous generations had it.

I’ve been with Extinction Rebellion (XR) from the start. I was one of the 15 people in April 2018 who came together and made the collective decision to try to create the conditions that would initiate a rebellion. I was a coordinator of one of the original five working groups, and I’ve been organising with XR day-and-night since then (frugally living off my savings so I don’t have to work, having quit an industry that paid me £1000/week). And I’ve been in RisingUp (the organisation from which XR has emerged) since the first RisingUp action in November 2016. I’m a RisingUp Holding Group member, and a member of the XR Guardianship Team. And I’m here to say that XR isn’t about the climate. Sure it is.

Stuart Basden- one of the founders of extinction rebellion- has stated clearly that his movement is not about the climate, its about "patriarchy" , "heteronormativity" "white supremacy" and "class hierarchy." And you wonder why this approach from some of the founders gets people's back up.

My point is that "striving to do our best for the planet" is entirely subjective and lives on a spectrum from sensible choices and legislation within our existing society to upending the oppressive capitalist system and living in a yurt and subsisting off the land alongside your fellow comrades. I see little purpose in changing my life in such drastic fashion when it will make very little meaningful difference to climate change other than making me feel a bit superior.

You said that all the protestors are doing is trying to move things on a bit quicker. They've stated quite explicitly that this is jot what they are doing and they do in fact have three "demands" which counter this too. The main problem is that "what is required" differs depending on who you talk to. Are we talking about gradual change which will have positive benefits and help us to become more environmentally friendly? Or are we talking about what extinction rebellion want which is something entirely different?

Have you listened to their interviews? Because that isn't what they are saying at all.

I'm sorry you feel that way it must be a very scary way to live. Genuinely I feel sorry for some of hese activists, I don't doubt that the terror they feel and instill in their children is very real. I can't say that's a feeling I've picked up among people I spend my time with but we probably mix in different circles. I don't relish the prospect of my children going through pain or anguish but a certain level is to be expected in life and some adversity can be a positive thing for building resilience- just look at some of the mentally and physically weak individuals the west has turned out in the last few decades.

Let's suggest hypothetically that Britain becomes carbon neutral overnight. What would be the plan after that given that you have already acknowledged this would do very little to combat global carbon emissions? What these activists are demanding is totally unrealistic unless you want to completely crash the economy and essential regress to a pre-industrial age. Frankly their attitude puts people who want to engage in sensible measures off entirely. Surely as well as raising awareness they should be looking to persuade and bring the electorate with them?

There's been Doom and gloom from some for decades. Humans are remarkably adaptable and have only really had what you would call a "comfortable" life for around 100 years. I'm sure my children will be absolutely fine and even if there is some adversity, it's likely that the humans of the future are still going to be 100 times better off than our ancestors. Making predictions too far in advance is a fools game anyway.

I'm definitely having more kids. Life is fantastic and it's a million times better when you have children to bring up. Outside of the Internet and the mass media I find most people just want to live happy and fulfilled lives being pleasant to other people and generally making positive contributions to society. Ignore the vast majority of social media and it's much better.

I'm sorry you are having difficulty understanding. Sensible and proportionate responses so that we are generally greener is a good thing. Mass panic, blocking half of London, hanging off every word an autistic teenager says and calling for meat and air etravel to be banned are things I'm not so enthusiastic about.

No I think sensible precautions are fine. These batsh*t people including the founder of extinction rebellion are going on about cannabalism in Britain, about literal human extinction in our lifetimes and many of them are basically anarcho-communists using this green agenda to push their regressive policies. If someone sensible come out and suggests reasonable policies like plastic bag reductions or reducing dumping in the oceans then I'm fully supportive. If a load of smelly hippies want to go and clog up London and have a rave whilst telling everyone we have to panic now (and visiting McDonald's for a Big Mac) then I'll treat them with the derision they deserve. Everyone doing a bit will undoubtedly make a small difference and I'm supportive of that but that isn't what these people are "demanding." Giant sweeping changes of the economy and the hobbling of us as a nation may rapidly reduce our climate footprint but all it will really do is send jobs and opportunities abroad and ruin us as a nation. Let's have sensible conversations about what, we can realistically achieve without the silliness.

So it's really about making yourself feel good then if it's going to have virtually no effect.

This was a referendum and that's how it's treated.

Not voting isn't an endorsement either way. If you don't vote then you don't have a voice.

Well then we agree. It isn't going to happen and all this nonsense in London is going to achieve nothing except annoy everyone.

It seems obvious to me that clearly the world is already massively overpopulated. If you were looking at things entirely without a conscience it would be clear that wiping out half the world's population would benefit the globe enormously. Failing that, I can't see there is a huge amount we can do as we won't be seeing any sort of change from India or China any time soon. Human beings will adapt and survive in the long term barring some other catastrophic event but maybe we won't have such cushy lives that we have lived for the last 100 odd years. Ultimately a small amount of hardship might end up being a good thing considering the entitled pampered whiny millenials who exist now.

Let's be honest. There's a reason that technologically advanced Western nations are being targeted despite the likes of the UK contributing piddling amounts of carbon globally. Lots of these people just want greater government control and to smash capitalism and are using prophecies of global extinction to bring it in. You can bet if they brought in some new rules such as restricting flying for example that the rich and powerful snobs like Prince Harry or Emma Thompson would be the sort of people who would be flouting the rules and getting round it by making a donation to a carbon neutral charity.