hypochondriac

And even in that short cameo he was the best cb in that game. Seems an odd move not to try him.

Well he played in the last round so what harm would there have been giving him a chance a half in this game to see if he's up to it? If he's better than our other cb options then he should play.

Agreed but I'm not qualified as a judge to make those judgements. Apparently other factors were to do with how his dad treated him, living in Wales and having gone to Cardiff uni and feeling inadequate compared to everyone in the bbc who went to Oxford.

No one seriously thinks wood and Edwards are good enough to play in the prem.

Even if we accept that ridiculously charitable reading of the original post, the offence of paying to watch children being raped is not a trivial one by any means and even according to the sentencing guidelines. The sentence would be 12 months in prison. Because he had mental health issues and other mitigating factors the judge reduced the sentence to six months and made it suspended.

Unless ABK has made a pass at Pinder, he should be on the bench as a minimum.

We got away with Adams in the championship but arguably we have needed a striker since Broja left. Obviously Stewart was meant to be the one but we shouldn't be relying on him this year.

A rare moment of agreement. Maybe having a son makes you more sensitive to matters like this but the thought of my son being coerced into sending explicit pictures or worse is just awful. I'd like to think that even someone I vehemently disagree with has simply posted without thinking and has made an error. If that's not the case though it just underlines that you really don't know people you interact with online. I can't think of any of my acquaintances or anyone I interact with that would ever try to minimise crimes committed by the likes of Edwards by comparing them to even greater atrocities. The child sex trade is pretty much the most appaling 'industry' in the world and anyone propping that up is the lowest of the low. It would be impossible to find any common ground with someone who thinks as sadoldgit is claiming to here. Like I say though I hope he has made a mistake and will say something to that effect. Disagreements on a football forum aside, crimes like this shouldn't be downplayed or minimised.

If by your own admission you knew the photos and videos were category A then you knew it was penetrative sex and you were also aware they were of children. How could you not have known? What you've just posted above is entirely different from downplaying the offences which is clearly and unambiguously what you did. You won't apologise though, you'll just ignore the virtual universal condemnation on here and then cry that you're being unjustly persecuted the next time someone objects to what you say. Maybe it was a mistake and you didn't mean to write what you did but now would be the time to own up to that, apologise and hopefully we can all forget that you've downplayed the crime of solicitation of child rape.

Weren't we reported to have made a big money bid for ionnas that Greek striker? Also that Brazilian one? If Archer does achieve that - no guarantee - then it will only be because he plays way more. Will be interesting to see how their goals per minutes played will compare.

Merely "unpleasant". Fucking hell hasn't this "man" had children of his own?

I hope that's the case. The alternative is that he's serious and that's a lot more depressing/concerning.

Hard disagree. Those are the sort of gambles you have to make if you want to stay in this league. Might have been a flop, might have given us a better chance. Probably turned us down anyway but it would have been worth pursuing if that wasn't the case. We clearly needed another striker in the summer, our options up front are Archer and then playing players out of position.

Creating a market for and thus having a part to play in the rape of a seven year old is not "the crime of the century" and "relatively trivial." Jesus Christ.

Nabbed hundreds of them apparently. Like something out of a James bond film.

Unbelievable.

The fact there are a lot of them doesn't make it less of an awful crime. "hardly the crime of the century" is you downplaying the crime of soliciting child rape media which I genuinely never thought I'd see on here - even from you. There's something seriously wrong with you.

When someone calls someone something horrendous like a rape apologist or suggests that soliciting child pornography is no big deal those things tend to be memorable.

And every time images of that nature are viewed, those children are effectively abused again. Let's remember here that some of these images and videos are category A which is full rape of boys and one of the boys was 7. If there wasn't demand for this from people like Huw then these images and videos wouldn't be being made so these people are the cause of the abuse. I'll be honest I haven't been shocked by much on here but describing soliciting child rape pics and videos as trivial is probably the worst thing I've ever seen on this forum. This isn't even about previous posts or the history of a poster on this forum. If I were you soggy I'd seriously consider editing or possibly deleting your post. Shame on you.

Are you fucking serious? Remember people this is someone who apparently worked for the cps! Extraordinary.

He needed first team football in the prem. Given that there were only a few options and we clearly pushed the boat out for him.

They clearly will. He was a bargain to be honest.

Fair enough. You make a convincing case.

This is correct.

Thought that lot all got fired?