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Katie Hopkins is relevant when discussing your lack of understanding about the Christian religion. In that respect she is incredibly relevant.

So in response to someone posting something along the lines of "there is a problem with extremism in Islam" you haven't come out with responses that include talking about the Nazis being Christians, talking about atrocities within other religions and calling people racist and reminding us that all Muslims are not terrorists? All whilst seemingly disagreeing with the statement. OK then...

Fair play. Just get soggy to show some humility and we are on to a winner!

There are plenty of articles refuting what you say (as well as actually knowing something about the Christian religion.) You do realise that just because it's in an article on the Internet it isn't necessarily true right? But yes the nazis must have been Christian because they had it on their belt buckles don't you know . For once Chapel end Charlie and I are in agreement- the nazis used the religion to further their war effort and your belief that Hitler was possibly a Christian after he rose to power is absolutely and utterly absurd. It's also totally irrelevant to the thread other than highlighting once more what mad ideas you have swirling in your brain so I hope we can move on with almost a forum consensus on this issue. Minus soggy of course.

You really didn't read my post did you. An apologist is someone who defends something such as a cause or organisation that is being criticised or attacked from other people. You are an apologist for extremist Islam when in response to someone saying that there is a problem with extremist Islam you deny that is the case and seek to deflect by looking for irrelevant examples of extremism in other faiths and bang on about Hitler being a Christian.

He's really really isn't but it's such an absurd notion that I had to bring it up again. Sorry to derail the topic somewhat.

So you're still claiming that after Hitler rose to power he was a Christian? You genuinely believe that? Here's a couple of sources for you: You are right that Hitler did mention Christianity many times in his writings. He paid Christianity a lot of lip service in*Mein Kampf, and he claimed to be a Christian. But Hitler's secretary, Martin Bormann, also declared that "National Socialism [Nazism] and Christianity are irreconcilable" and Hitler didn't squawk too much about it. Similarly, Hermann Rauschning, a Hitler associate, said, "One is either a Christian or a German. You can't be both." In addition, Hitler declared Nazism the state religion and the Bible was replaced by*Mein Kampf*in the schools. Randy Alley, one of my best WWII history sources, noted that the SS were supposedly forbidden to believe in God. Hitler also forwarded other reasons in ‘Mein Kampf’ as to why Christianity should be rejected. 1.It protected the weak and the low. 2.Christianity was Jewish and Oriental in origin and it forced people “to bends their backs to the sound of the church bells and crawl to the cross of a foreign God.” 3.Christianity began 2000 years previous among sick, exhausted and despairing men who had lost their belief in life. 4.The Christian tenets of forgiveness of sin, resurrection and salvation were “plain nonsense”. 5.The Christian idea of mercy was a dangerous idea and “un-German”. 6.Christian love was a silly idea because love paralysed men. 7.The Christian idea of equality protected the racially inferior, the ill, the weak and the crippled. But yeah Hitler was definitely a Christian. Definitely.

A rare moment of agreement! Just get a couple of others on the same page and there may be hope of a consensus yet.

Well that's a matter of opinion but to my mind it shows an incredible amount of disrespect for the memorial and by extension those killed.

Again all that is theoretically possible but he certainly wasn't a Christian when he wrote Mein kampf and I doubt soggy was referring to his childhood (the quotes he has used are clearly after his rise to power.)

That's hideously inappropriate and neither the time or the place for that sort of thing.

Indeed I agree. I assume soggys use of Hitler quotes regarding this particular argument was implying that Hitler was a Christian. We all agree that is utterly absurd. Good we can move on.

Granted it's hypothetically possible that he recanted after taking the cyanide capsule- sadly for us we will never know- but short of that and unless soggy has access to data unreleased to the public, it's clear that he wasn't in any way shape or form a Christian.

Well sort of. The European response to all this has been woeful so in that sense he is correct but almost everything else he says is mental with no detail. Trump is a cartoon character and will say whatever he thinks will be populist with his supporters. I wouldn't think too deeply about these sort of horrible acts though, after all Hitler was a Christian.

Irrefutable proof! I've heard some absolute tosh on here but congratulations you've taken it to a new level. Hitler was a Christian! :lol:

You are an apologist for extremist Islam when you deny or try to deflect attention from the not particularly controversial statement that there is a problem with extremism within Islam. Katie Hopkins attending a convent school does not in any way make her a Christian in the same way that me attending a Catholic Secondary School does not make me a Catholic.

It's not that interesting really, I don't see you arguing with the likes of two pints or Chapel end Charlie for example so it works both ways. There are plenty of holes in a number of their arguments but you never pick them up. Could it be because they are some of the few who don't think you're a loony? I've disagreed with delldays loads of times as I'm sure he will tell you.

It won't do when it's completely untrue and another example of you arguing against a perfectly reasonable view by shouting racist.

So once again you demonstrate your lack of self control and you desperate desire to continue your verbal diarrhoea. Very well. 1. The nazis are as Christian as Katie Hopkins is when she says she is Jesus Christ. 2. You are desperate to avoid admitting that there is a problem with extremist Islam currently manifesting itself in the form of these terrorist attacks in europe. You are so desperate to avoid this that you go all round the houses bringing in nazis, talking about Christian terrorists and Christian atrocities which is totally irrelevant.

You're just proving my point. Don't take my word for it though, look how many other posters have called you a fantasist!

That isn't what you quoted. I said it was hard to argue with a different post.

How do you jump from someone saying there is a problem with Islamic extremism to race riots? What sort of logic jump is that?

Hard to argue with you there. Even if someone doesn't agree, I hope we don't get other posters jumping up and down calling you racist or islamaphobic again.

Indeed. As if we needed any further reminders! Must be awful seeing phantom racists everywhere.

I spend a fair amount of time attacking imbeciles who post stupid things (you). I don't class you as a "moderate" at all, just an ignorant and ill informed poster who talks rubbish and things he is on the side of moderate Muslims when actually his posts have nothing to do with that. I've answered every false claim you've made and I'm still posting now- the very opposite of running away. But pretend I am if it makes you feel better. I know you'd rather some of the more stupid things you have posted in this thread were quietly forgotten but when you keep posting and pretending you are some moderate voice of reason they should keep being highlighted to counter this view.