NickG

and he still plays

most, including pundits completely disagree with you but its all about opinions

some on here have different views and put a fair across some you get exasperated as they disagree but refuse to offer any reasoned debate then there are posts like SaintRobbie's above -and you just have to smile and feel sorry for him

you are quite obsessive in looking for criticism. Every ref looks out for professional fouls, get real it's no revelation saints player used sneaky foul on edge of box tactic, no other team does this best look out for it! You look very silly with posts like this

I think these points are made up by those who obsess about boardroom, unless you KNOW otherwise?

easier to read here http://www.4thegame.com/statistics/championship/tables/currentform.html

Doncaster 5/6 Nottm Forest 5/4 Barnsley 5/4 Blackpool 5/2 Southampton 11/4 Charlton 11/2 Watford 11/2 Plymouth 6/1 Sheff Wed 13/2 latest odds from Coral, those who are sure we will be relegated by Christmas ought to get odds for that you will make a fortune! Latest current form 16 Southampton 6 2 2 2 5 7 -2 8 D W W L L D 17 Ipswich Town 6 1 4 1 8 6 2 7 D D W L D D 18 Coventry City 6 2 1 3 9 9 0 7 W D L W L L 19 Norwich City 6 2 1 3 7 7 0 7 W D L L L W 20 Queens Park Rangers 6 1 2 3 3 6 -3 5 L L D L W D 21 Charlton Athletic 6 1 1 4 3 8 -5 4 D L L W L L 22 Preston North End 6 1 0 5 5 12 -7 3 L L L L W L 23 Nottingham Forest 6 0 2 4 2 7 -5 2 D L L L L D 24 Doncaster Rovers 6 0 1 5 3 14 -11 1 L L L L D L

Damn that Lowe, wish he would let JP pick a man on crutches! Stop making things up, Thomas is injured. JP picks the team unless you have evidence to the contrary?

(b) PLAYERS SENT OFF UNDER LAW 12 (7) A Player who is dismissed from the Field of Play for receiving a second caution in the same match will be suspended automatically from all approved First Team matches commencing forthwith, until such time as his Club’s First Team has completed its next match in an approved Competition. © PLAYERS SENT OFF UNDER LAW 12 (4) and (5) A Player who is dismissed from the Field of Play for denying a goal or an obvious goal-scoring opportunity by physical means or by handling the ball, will be suspended automatically from all approved First Team matches commencing forthwith, until such time as his Club’s First Team has completed its next match in an approved Competition so one game whether straight red of two yellows as not violent etc (g) ADDITIONAL SENDINGS OFF Players dismissed from the field of play for a second time or who have been previously suspended under the Standard Directions set out in Schedule A of these Regulations in the same Season, in addition to the automatic suspension applicable to the offence, will be suspended for one extra match. Each subsequent dismissal for a player previously dismissed or suspended under the Standard Directions at Schedule A in the same season will incur a further extra match ban. This means that the total suspension imposed will include an extra game for each previous dismissal or suspension under the Standard Directions. For example, this means that a player dismissed for a third time in the same season, or suspended twice under the Standard Directions at Schedule A and dismissed once, will be suspended for an extra two matches and so on. For the purposes of this regulation a previous dismissal in a non FTCM will only be taken into account where it was for violent conduct, serious foul play or spitting looks like two

not sure but thought it might be discretionary, or for straight reds, will look on fa site

thought the same! (could you please edit my quote to hide my error!)

sorry! corrected

not saints related... I think if he was ugly and not married to a popstar he would being raved about a great deal more. Top player and great attitude, pity he was too old for us and we turned him down.

Watford reaction did concern me. He did sound shocked, but suppose if you team is playing well, all over another team and suddenly miss two penalties and two nil down it is bizarre!

What do you normally get from managers when a player is sent off? Question the decision? Didn't see it? Defend the player saying he didn't mean it? Quite refreshing to hear JP say how good it was for Lancashire to commit a professional foul to save the team. Not great sport ethics! But what all managers -and us -would think! http://m6live.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/3779879.Lancashire_did_right_thing_getting_sent_off___Poortvliet/

30 appearances

Rooney for me would be ideal

the obsession with the board room is ridiculous, the amount of times Lowe is mentioned in even a post match football thread! There is nothing at all to say that RL is involved in team selection. There is nothing to say that JP has been prevented from playing anyone, for example KD was apparantly up for sale, one of the higher earners, we signed a new keepers -played everygame. Lowe was slagged off for signing Schneiderlin and Holmes, either that was unfair as untrue or Lowe knows more about football than the numerous posters on here who slagged Holmes off! (and there were loads of OTT posts) Slag him off over shutting of corners (actually that may have been a crouch one) or replacing NP, or appointing JP, his lack of charm, etc but don't get obsessed with your bizarre conspiracy theories!

I think too much is made of the experiment -both from the club on a positive and by posters on here as a negative. The main three things about the experiment were 1) more reliance on young homegrown players as we can afford to buy established CCC players. 2) train first team and reserves together to aid easier movement of players between the two 3) playing a midfield made up of two holding, two attacking wide and an "in the hole" The first makes total sense and we have to accept it is financially driven. The second is hardly earth shattering and again makes sense. The formation in midfield looked good with Holmes and Schneiderlin, Lallana got called up to the U21 based on the "in the hole" position and was described by two other managers as the best young player in this league. The criticism of underutilising older players? Svennson -would be playing if fit Thomas - got back into team before injury Euell - was hardly a football god and has been injured recently John -looked of the pace in pre-season and I agreed that DMG did enough to start the season, however I feel that JP did persevere too long with DMG when clearly off form. John was not available against Watford and played last night. Skacel - at start of season made it clear he wanted to leave, and I agree with JP that he should not be picked whilst in talks elsewhere. Since it fell through, who knows. Personally I think it was JP's decision from what he saw in training, reserves and talking to him that his attitude was not ready. JP did say that Surman was only a stop gap at LB so perhaps he always hoped he would return. I don't agree with all of JP decisions and I am sure he would see in hindsight selections/substitutions he would have done differently. Rather than systems etc the main issue is getting good players playing well. We are not in a position to sign 11 new good players. We did awfully last year with more experienced players. Even if JP sticks to his principals, as the younger player gain experience, players return from injury I am confident we will do ok - as long as JP 1) plays in form players 2) finds some stability in defence

read reports of those who went -commanded the area listen to Dave Merrington -best keeper in division sorry mate you are wrong he has been very good for us - a lot of prejudices in ratings of him were due to his clown error early on. We are lucky to have him, and when I bumped into him he was a true gent with my kids.

if thats what you meant -still think we are a lower/mid table CCC. Think you got my gist that surviving in div 1 was silly question;)

Got to say despite some of the results in games I have seen I have been impressed. I was out running listening to game on portable radio so kept flicking from solent to radio hampshire -each had two commentators -and all were raving about how outstanding KD has been for us this season both in shot stopping and claiming crosses. He gets a lot of slagging off on here but, IMHO, a great deal of it undeserved. Sounds like he made some cracking saves again tonight. Not convinced Wright would have been any improvement over a season.

http://www.4thegame.com/statistics/championship/tables/currentform.html 8 teams there must be worried as well then.

sounds busy on radio hampshire

good point, thoroughly deserve every plaudit, they deserved the ovation, rode luck at times, KD made superd saves but so did their keeper -radio hants