saint boggy

but if the punishment disuades others from copying the crime in the future,then surely that can only be a good thing.....the trouble in this country is that we are so used to the courts handing out namby-pamby sentences/punishments that when they do come down hard on certain elements of society, we are shocked (sometimes a good shock, sometimes not-so-good). i stand by my theory though that this will send shockwaves through ,at least, the younger element of troublemakers, who, up to now, it has all been fun n games for.....intimidate a few people as you walk to a game,get in a few people's faces, give someone a little slap etc,.......push a fence??........ can we PLEASE end this f**kin' thread now.......it's just tedious......

really?? so the guy who said to the copper that he "wants to go toe-to-toe with them and wants to die" was acting calmly and rationally,was he???...........yeh, right!!...he sounds like a right "decent fella" to me!

hence why i did not say "he served more than 14 months"LOL but, for the record, he spent 2 years inside before he escaped and then 8 years when he returned to the UK...... considerably MORE than 14 months!

you SURE about that?...next time you walk past a group of 50-60 'men' all baying for blood, lets see if your opinion changes, shall we ....(and i think Ronnie Biggs got a slightly longer sentence than 14 months , don't you!)

no not really.....do enlighten me

how is that NOT the point????????? surely a potential punishment is only there as a means of a deterrent.....ie, you do 'this' and you could get 'x' amount of years etc!

not if it stops 200 youngsters thinking these d1cks are the 'sh1t' and joining in with it next time..........

i can't believe this bloody thread is STILL going!! FFS, get over it......people went to prison for behaving like neanderthals, others will think twice before copying their antics now........ simple as that......the desired effect has been reached. harsh on the people that were sent down, but meh!

you're right Ron, they are an invasive,non-native species....lovely to look at but cause a lot of problems......much like the Polish!.. thats a no on that idea then.......

i'd actually like to see a white shirt with a red dodecahedron........your thoughts???

you should know.

you know that sarcasm IS the lowest form of wit!

and there-in lies the reasoning behind the sentences......

SOOOOOOOOOOOO........... hands up how many people are gonna be goading and reacting to opposition fans' goading now then???????

or civil human beings..........

i wonder how many of the 12 were 'first time offenders'...........be interesting to find out, dontcha think??

have only read the first page of this thread, BUT....quick question for all those who think the sentences are pretty harsh.......(which, to a degree,i do) Knowing now that the Old Bill are taking an almightilly firm hand on football related violence and disorder, how many of you will be avoiding trouble like the proverbial plague now,or will you still persist in "giving in large", despite the punishments handed out today? (only those who would NORMALLY look for some "action",obviously)

knees

pour

worker

spine

Court

i was totally dumbfounded watching that last night, it was like the BBC had stepped into an alternate reality where mocking other countries on a football programme is 'acceptable'.....i'm not the sort of person who writes letters of complaint, but it honestly crossed my mind last night (cba, now though). weird thing to show on an after-game discussion programme........

sharpener

Ronnie