goodymatt

Well according to Jacob Tanswell on his Fraser announcement tweet, we are having to utilise the loan market as we spent so much last season. He pretty much confirmed that in his replies: https://x.com/j_tanswell/status/1695119121506058564?s=46&t=7raSKCMt6LV8RJ1C2d39WQ Record sales for this league and we don’t have much of a budget by the sounds of it? Maybe we need to sell Tella just to cover the loan fees and Wood…

I don’t support this decision. It’s a decent fee but it’s a bad call.

This time last year I would have laughed at you if you said he would got for £20m to Germany after his loan at Burnley. This one feels like a big blow for our promotion push, Fraser is obviously his replacement.

What do Mason Holgate and Ryan Fraser have in common? It’s been about 4 years since they looked like decent players. If they aren’t coming in for squad depth and are expected to be starters, that seems a bit of a gamble?

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Why sell Tella at any price? He can be an important player in this league, smashed it last season and still has 2 years left. We have made enough from realising asset value of other players. Che with a year left I can understand the pressure to get him to sign or sell him. Tella was dropped by Arsenal and we gave him a pathway to the PL and he didn’t really take it. We give him a loan to develop and he took it personally, crying when we told him and now seemingly happy to fuck us off at the first opportunity. You might say the fee is above his current market value but I still think it is mad to sell him right now.

If you’re Piroe and your first choice is to join Martin here, surely you wait? You only join Leeds if there is real doubt you’re not going to be signed? I don’t think we were 100% committed to signing him for whatever reason?

He did score against us for Swansea in the cup. Linked to PL teams for a few windows. He’s not been hiding under a rock like.

If Piroe was our first choice to replace Adams and he was keen to come (as local Swansea journo suggests), why is he not here? Have Saints got a better option lined up? is Che staying? You’d think Piroe would wait for us to sell Che if we were his preferred destination under his old manager. Not sure Leeds trying hard for a week covers that all off. I maintain that we could have had him if we wanted. Unless Leeds financial package is huge in comparison to ours? Something doesn’t quite add up for me.

TalkSport said we had declined to bid. I think your take on it sounds pretty logical.

Article does refer to him as Paul Wilcox, so not sure if that puts any doubt into the validity of their claims?

https://x.com/swanseacitylive/status/1695030810842214421?s=46&t=7raSKCMt6LV8RJ1C2d39WQ This says we were in advanced negotiations for Piroe and he was keen to come but the efforts of Leeds meant he went there in the end.

Trying to think from a positive angle here. Are these new loan players that need to rebuild their careers and coming in as competition. Using loan system to avoid having to sell the starters like Tella? Rather than spend on their replacements?

Ryan Fraser and Mason Holgate loans give me Ainsley Maitland-Niles vibes. Overpaid PL players that flatter to deceive. Dropping down a level might make them useful but I am concerned about their wages and motivation.

I’m also surprised that we weren’t in for Piroe. Surely he would have been interested if we were. It does put a lot of pressure now on either keeping Che or a gamble on a less known entity (for this league) hitting the ground running, should we sell Che this window. I’m in the hoping we keep Che camp. I don’t think we can sign better whilst in this league and I think I’d rather keep him than have Piroe too. Contract situation makes me think that’s pretty damn unlikely though, so I do harbour a lot of the same concerns as many other posters. Hoping we keep Che or have an exciting alternative lined up that proves Wilcox to be the head chef cooking up promotion.

This is the championship though, not the premier league. Both should be useful enough at this level, although I’d agree we can improve at CB.

Yeah I’d like Awe to be 5th choice. Charles to focus on CDM unless we have an injury crisis. Think we might need 2 actually, if 2 leave.

How do I do this using my iPhone?

I’m copying the link as normal from iPhone app and then changing ‘x’ to ‘Twitter’ but the text just goes darker red and never embeds. Are you having success on an iPhone? https://twitter.com/mailsport/status/1694273280700543060?s=46&t=7raSKCMt6LV8RJ1C2d39WQ

https://x.com/mailsport/status/1694273280700543060?s=46&t=7raSKCMt6LV8RJ1C2d39WQ Swans want £12m for Wood. *This not being able to embed the link is very irritating.

Such a joke that one. 3 good games covering injury was it? 🤦‍♂️

I think the attraction is that he’s a 20 goal striker in this system, understands it straight away and at 24 he has room to improve. Outperforming xG 2 seasons running shows he is a good, rather than lucky finisher too. I asked my mate who is a Watford fan and has been watching championship footy a bit longer than we have recently, what his thoughts on him were: “Joel Piroe is class! His movement is sensational. Joel should be premier league”. No Saints or Swans bias, so encouraging.

Hopefully this Qatar link works out 👋

https://x.com/hubfootballuk/status/1694271771971654060?s=46&t=7raSKCMt6LV8RJ1C2d39WQ Interesting. We have 1st and 2nd, used to have 3rd and are now trying to buy 4th. Perhaps Bednarek and Stephens are better on the ball than we give them credit for? If we bring in Wood, is that job done at CB do we think?

You’d like to think Piroe would choose Saints over Leeds, just as Manning very clearly did. This is a system and manager he’s bagged 40 goals over 2 seasons in. It seems Martin has a great relationship with his former players. We look in better shape than Leeds too. IF Che to Everton and Piroe to Saints has been on the cards all summer, he can wait a few more days whilst Everton sort their payment terms out.

https://x.com/swansnews/status/1694244758221160514?s=46&t=7raSKCMt6LV8RJ1C2d39WQ I wouldn’t be surprised to see Piroe in for Adams and Wood in for ABK. That would then be Martin, Manning, Piroe, Wood, their academy director and also their past player Downes. Is this ambitious enough?