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Yep...dunno why, but I wander if we might see a 3 at the back, Djenepo and KWP at wing back.

That's bizarre. He can't defend and gets bullied at RB. He'd be even worse at CB.

Ha!! The Stage Door on Southampton has had a toilet with a sign that's half male and half female for ages.

Interesting take on it. What you've done is shifted from the "need" to elect your gender in some cases to the practical implementation of doing so. There's no doubt that the practical and safe implementation is a huge issue, but does that mean that the trans process must cease? Bloody thorny issue, and as you say, there's no view you can hold on this debate which won’t offend someone.

Thanks both. I'm glad that someone has hade the balls/sense to ditch Ralph's playbook in favour of a system that suits the players.

Behave!! Not my rules. Post me a link to something formal (WHO or similar) recognizing Transgender as an illness and I'll relent.

A narrow issue in that it is the discreet issue that I've outlined. You keep conflating it with other unrelated issues. You've suggested that it is a psychological issue that people can get help with, thus implying that they arguably need help. I don't agree with you.

Eh? This is a complex but narrow issue. We're talking about people who are born as a gender but identify as something different. I don't see that as an illness.

Agreed.

No idea mate, although I'd imagine it's hell being born a man but identifying as a woman and wanting to be one.

We'll agree to differ. We do not choose our bodies of birth. We do not choose with what we identify as in terms of gender or anything else. I don't believe someone is unwell if they identify with a gender that is different to that which is different to that on their birth certificate.

So you're suggesting a trans person still living in their body of birth is unwell. It's an interesting theory, but I think a flawed one...the obvious extension of it is that gay people could be given "the help they obviously require to accept themselves as they are". Sure, that may be correct for eating disorders, but not the case for sexuality or gender.

Yep, battered them by the looks of it. Do you know if they're playing a back 3? Line up suggests Olufunwa RB but article says someone else is so can can only guess it's him Simeu and Lancashire at CB.

I can only echo what I said to Lighthouse. We don't choose who or what we are born as/with. Our chromosomes, body parts, hair, eyes, whatever, are what we are born with. We don't choose it, so I see it that we're given it. Others can take a more complicated approach or use different terminology, but fundamentally I'd imagine that we all agree that none of us choose to be the person that we are born as.

Cheers. Forgot they were playing. No Smallbone so presumably he's either injured again or back with the first team squad. Ditto Small, although I think he was injured.

You're over thinking this. We are born into the world in a body. I was born a male and identify as a male so all is good. But if I identified as a woman, and hated the idea of being a man, I've plainly been born into the wrong body. There's nothing spiritual or complicated about it.

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Disagree. Speak to someone who's been through it or wants to got through it and you'll understand. People are born into a body, it's what they're given, and some people identify as a gender different to that of body they're born with.

Because you're highlighting that you know someone trans. It's pretty obvious to that someone born on the wrong body will feel happier in their own skin once their gender has been altered, ditto that someone who wants a baby will be ecstatic when falling pregnant, or someone unemployed will feel great when they get a job, etc, etc. The post was exactly about you.

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Please feel free to explain how SOG's tale reduces that risk, but don't bring me into the cervix stuff mate.

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The point is that the point doesn't need to be made. We probably all know someone trans, and understand how the world and opinion has progressed, but you're the only one making a "look at me" post.

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