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Sure, I've boxed all my life, and have used the punchbag as a release of frustration and anger. If that's not used, or speaking, what then, bottle it up? Drink? Self harm? Worse? We're still seemingly at the point on here that "men are men" so should just suck it up and get on it.

Stay on subject. At a funeral and you felt like crying, would you be conscious of it and fight it, or let it out?

Sog's point is a good one though, men get ridiculed for showing emotion, thus does it not follow that they'll bottle up negative feelings and suffer in silence? Isn't it better out than in?

Yep. Ralph crying ain't a sign of a mental attitude illness or weakness. It's a bloke showing his emotions. What I disagree with is criticism of him for displaying his emotions. Crying isn't necessary, but if that's his reaction, it's nobody else's business.

True, and relating that to MH and self improvement, the 7 sins all provide an opposite which are no bad thing for us to strive for in how we live our lives...we're all guilty of at least a part of some of them in our lives.

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I should have thought of that when I typed my last post...red rag to a bull in hindsight!

I'm of the view that much of the bible stuff isn't intended to be a factual reference, rather a way of getting thoughts and principles across. It's the whole forgiveness from jesus thing that I struggle with though. I make mistakes, we all do, that's human nature. What I want to do is develop as a person by learning from mistakes, not dwelling on them until I get forgiveness.

I wasn't thinking about comparison to others, rather that the day before has gone, so live in the present day. His point seems to be that if you were decent yesterday, but not so today, then be the person to were yesterday. The flip of that is that if you were shite yesterday, trying to replicate that ain't a good idea and neither is dwelling on it. The obvious middle ground is reflection on it and learning. I'll take a look at his stuff and I'm intrigued to know what he says about the bible - I have certain views on God but I'm not religious and struggle with the Christian view on forgiveness, I'm more about learning from life, changing and developing. I'll check this guy out.

Me neither! He gets off the fence and has a different thought process. That number 4 flips other widely held views on their head, but there is a logic to it and it'll get me thinking. I'll watch that interview, cheers 👍

@hypochondriac never heard of Jordan Peterson and just read some of his stuff. His 12 rules are interesting. Lots of sense in all of them although number 4 is a strange one...it pre supposes the day before was a good one and that we were a decent version of ourselves that day. Food for thought though, cheers.

Yep, cracking start to the weekend. Looking forward to seeing City spank Utd to keep the pressure on our top 8 rivals.

Our posts crossed whelk, my reply to hypo deals with that.

Forgive me, my comment wasn't a comment or criticism regarding you. Rather, your post highlights what I understand to be a male societal issue. You highlight that there is a difference between male and female approach to addressing what's going on inside their heads, and all but suggests that should be the acceptable norm. Why should it be? For me there's a direct link between that and the much higher proportion of male suicide. Back to ego and pride. In my time around mental health - working and life - men cannot get honest with themselves about how they're feeling, thus have no prospect of dealing with that. It then brews and builds, and that's when disaster can strike. The single most cause of that blockage is pride and ego, ie being perceived of less of a man, is a huge factor, and the consequence is that most men can't or won't talk to other men they know about shit that's bothering them. That's ingrained in us and out society - most of us can't meet a mate in the pub and unload our shit to them.If they can't do that, get to a therapist, a counsellor, anyone that can help unfuck their head.

I was thinking this. There's been more flexibility in the b team too. I'd assumed it was some kind of tactical policy change across the teams but it could just be that the squads are better so there's more flexibility in tactics, line ups and subs. Really positive to see all 3 teams winning again though.

Yep, out of possession it was horrible to watch and the midfield looked a bit disjointed. It was better when Diallo came in. In possession though the additional CB gave the wing backs cover and gave us our best outlet to stop us dropping even deeper.

Agreed. 3 at the back was logical. Tino and KWP were under a lot of pressure and were struggling to get up the field. The subs gave them cover and helped them get forward and push them back. It worked. The other subs were good too, and well timed.

Therein lies much of the problem - male pride, ego and a perception that only women talk about their problems. So the answer is what, bottle it up until it gets so bad that someone near the edge reaches for the rope?

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Yep. El Ghazi completely bossing him.

It ain't the talk, it's the change of tactics. The players don't adapt, and to be fair to Ralph, he has.

Give him time to settle this half. He'll be OK.

I'm with you in this, although I'm fancying us for 3 goals in a cracking game, and win.

Cheers SOG. Men's suicide rates are through the roof, and the general unwillingness to talk about their MH is a big issue. Groups like mangang are really helping - I have a few ex army mates suffering ptsd who have found them a literal lifesaver. Their strap line is "its not weak to speak" and that's a message that needs to be heard over the archaic "man up" nonsense.

Jordan Ibe, Jefferson Lerma, Solanke and Philip Billing...you get the point.