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Djenepo is clueless. Headless.

They're just playing around our shape. Not a good start.

Pieces

I fear the discussion is going over your head.

It may be those things, but Black Lives Matter, aka BLM, is also a hideous political party with awful ideology. It's obvious that large chunks of the public will see that footy players taking the knee in the name of BLM will link that to the political party and the appalling behaviour in the name of BLM. The solution in footy is simple. Ditch the knee and the slogan associated with BLM. Revert to kick it out or something similar. If footy wants to discuss or address race, then let footy have a proper dialogue about any race issues in footy. If its decided that there are any, then discuss how to tackle them.

Blimey, that's a strong bench. Salisu and Ings. Nice.

Ditto. They're better than their league position imo. It'll be a good game. Head says a draw, heart says 2-3.

If you replace a turd with a turd, you still have a turd.

Awakening

Average player. No, no and never.

There'll be game. Ings may play. Or may not. I hope we win. We may do. Or not.

Spot on. It's a shame that Sky News UK are not reporting this in the same open and frank way that Sky New Australia have.

You say "At the very least we can't say for sure that stop and search isn't being misused". That's a curious statement and suggests that you feel it necessary that evidence is shown to prove that there is no misuse. That's not how it works - the police are not presumed guilty of misuse unless they can prove otherwise. As to stop and search, do you not feel reassured that someone "fitting a description" is stopped and searched? Would you prefer no action be taken? I must confess that I haven't tread the document you link to, but when I hear reports of kids being stabbed, the victims and perpetrators are usually black. If that's the case (I am happy to be corrected if I misunderstand the position) how can there be any objection to searching the kids in areas where that stuff happens? Regardless, the issue in this thread is that football has associated itself with the actions and name of Black Lives Matters (BLM) and footy players are compelled to kneel in support of that. The BLM organisation is the flip side of the EDL and nobody should be made to support it. The actions of the Millwall fans and the comments on this forum show how divisive the issue is. If footy players really are to be the public focus, do it in a way that does not oblige them to virtue signal, and do not do it in the name of an organisation that does not stand for racial equality.

Healer

If an addict doesn't address their addiction, then they will use again regardless of how easy or difficult it is to access a bookmaker / drink / drug. If the addiction is properly addressed, it doesn't matter how available the bookmaker / drink / drug is. Advertising has nothing to do with the problem.

Condone, no. Bright enough to understand why, probably.

BLM "has zero negative impact" on my life. In fact it has no impact at all, but neither do any of the pro white movements. I don't like seeing footy players feeling obliged to stand/kneel in support of BLM any more/less than I'd want them to be obliged to stand/kneel for any other fringe movement. Sure, send a message in support of social and racial equality, but anyone thinking that is what BLM stand for does not understand their ideology.

Yep. Cost his team. Possibly cost Wilder his job too, got to be a dead man walking.

That post nails it, especially the last paragraph.

Nope, but you could extend that to gambling full stop, alcohol, tobacco, or anything which some people become addicted to. We're becoming a nanny state and I don't think banning online gambling is necessary.

Yep, absolutely ridiculous statement. I believe in racial equality and social justice. BLM don't.

I've got a friend who's a recovered gambling addict. What he and his family went through was horrendous, but he's had years in Gamblers Anonymous and hasn't had a bet in a long time. What he's told about his journey has been an eye opener. He started betting harmlessly as many of us do, but he became addicted because he's an addict. Not because of the plentiful bookies, or websites, at adverts, but because of how he's wired. Now he's sorted himself out, he doesn't go into a cold sweat when he sees a bookies or an ad for an online casino on a footy shirt. I can't agree with the poster who says "it's about personal responsibility and decisions of the individual" as that misunderstands addiction. There is nothing irresponsible about having a little bet, I do as do millions of others. I can choose to stop or not bet at all , but an addict at the simplest description, loses the power of choice and will bet because his of addiction not because he's lacking in responsibility. With the above said, advertising does not make addicts, and I have no issue with it.

That is ridiculous. The situation has to be fluid with covid. Nobody could seriously have expected them to have known back then what they might have to do in the current situation.

Nicely swerved. Someone who doesn't support mandatory taking the knee in public is not racist. If you disagree, please say. Playing the tape forward, is someone who doesn't support mandatory taking the knee in public, a racist for expressing that view? I haven't said the Millwall boys are or aren't racist. I'm saying it's perfectly acceptable to think that footy players having to take the knee is bollocks.

Spot on. The club have had to come up with a system, and prioritising the fans who demonstrate the highest commitment seems obvious. I'm staggered there's an argument against that.