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Yep. But when you remove the words "stay at home", introduce a sign with chevrons pointing forward with green as the main colour, and then use the word "unlimited" re exercise and tell people they can drive wherever to do whatever, the results are inevitable.

What is all this Starmer bashing all about? He's not managing the crisis. Boris is, apparently, albeit he's had a nightmare. Starmer is right to criticise the sending of people to care homes without testing. Do you not agree with him? Why would Starmer express any opinion about decisions taken by any of the 3 nations under devolved powers? That's a matter for the opposition in those 3 nations. Quite rightly he's spending his time exposing Boris's numerous errors.

Exactly. New Zealand will undoubtedly be playing sport soon, and properly, for the same reason.

What sane person persistently badgers someone to debate Adam & Eve or Noah & his ark ffs? It's mental. You could call me out to debate whether ghosts are real, or some other random boll0x, and my refusal to engage wouldn't be a victory - rather, I'd be normal person not wanting to waste my time indulging someone who isn't.

I suspect that's because nobody a) is interested or b) can be arsed to get into another 28 rounds of repetitive tedium with you. Your constant invitations to re-open a debate that only you wanted were pathetic. Let it go mate.

Danny Rose talking sense for once. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52630497

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You're full of insightful comments tonight Duck man. Any actual words to add?

Absolutely. I've called it lockdown lite because that is exactly what it is. The once a day excersize only didn't even make it into the law (save for Wales). It's been a complete joke and should have been a la France, with the Army to enforce alongside the police.

The Southampton v Portsmouth comment is as daft as the drink driving point. We're taking about a pandemic virus. We need to take appropriate steps to reduce the spread of it. It's not complicated, or Comparable to anything else as it isn't anything else.

Poor analogy Duck. Too many people are seeking to make comparisons with irrelevant scenarios. Covid 19 is a hideous virus. It's not remotely comparable to drink driving. The British populous have shown themselves to be idiots. Businesses have shown themselves to be willing to stretch rules for their own benefit. If footy comes back, fans will show up, Bazza will park his burger van up, etc. The bottom line Is that other countries are able to open up as they have slowed the spread. We haven't. Until we do, life must remain very different and football will have to wait. The masses don't need to be hearing "we'll be back to the old way soon". They need to hear "the longer you carry on stretching and breaking the rules, the longer we'll need the rules". Alas that message has never been given by the dopey government and media.

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It's pretty obvious - less spread = less infection = less deaths.

Are you seriously suggesting that our death count would have been lower with no lockdown?!

I think lives comes before money, and I'd rather we locked down harder and earlier. Germany are planning a way out of this, but given how widespread we have it I just don't see a safe way out of it. Our economy will be hit very hard for a long time sadly.

I'm assuming from your comment that you are looking just at the impact of this pandemic on you. For me, my income has halved, my firm may or may not survive this, but this isn't just about me. Staying on your original point, there's no chance of the old normal coming back anytime soon, if at all. The harsh reality is that the world's a different place and we have to adapt to it alongside this virus.

House arrest? Ffs. Back to normal? Things won't be as they were until there's a reliable vaccine. The virus ain't going anywhere so we've got to adapt to live alongside it. Of course there'll be mass unemployment and business closures, everyone knows that but saying "as you were" won't stop that.

Footy, the elixir of life eh.

Good shout. I rushed to the shop just before closing last night as we needed stuff. Others did the same. Consequently it was like the rush for last orders at the bar. Longer opening hours can only help with that.

I think that's broadly correct. What we have at the moment is a Mexican standoff. The government are refusing to call the end of the season to avoid the financial backlash falling on them- indeed they've made (perhaps disingenuous) noises saying they'd like sport to carry on. Ditto the PL and Sky. Below that there are all sorts of people and organisations who need to be paid as per contract, not least the players. There has to be a resolution soon but Sky won't pay for a product they aren't getting, and clubs can't fulfil contracts without income from them and sponsors who aren't getting their advertising without TV footy. The government won't call it, the clubs won't as they need the income, the players won't as they want the dollars, and Sky won't as the buck will stop with them. Thus, I think it will inevitably be a fudged outcome with the season concluding to a fashion but as almost exhibition football. I'd prefer a null and void but for the above reasons I don't think that likely.

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