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You still don't get it. Objective people can see that this particular protest isn't working, or even helping. Comments in this thread, and others like it, prove that. I don't have an issue with the knee, I just can't see the point of doing something that isn't doing any good. A lot of people also think it a shame that players and clubs feel compelled to do this. I've heard it from the horses mouth. Hypochondriac has said the same above. If anyone doubts that players don't have a choice in this, just look at Brentford. Last season they (probably the most inclusive club btw) decided that this was a load of bollox and ditched it. This season, they're joining in.

He's been back a while Weston...too early to tell if Warriorsaint is yet another login.

Slightly surprised by that, but he's not first team ready (or material) but regular games at a higher level than u23's won't do him any harm. The u23 side is looking very weak this season, and if we plunder the u18's again they'll struggle as well. Will be interesting.

Ha!! I'll divide myself equally between the left door, right door, and all the others on between. On one knee. I think that covers it.

You know what, grand idea. I'll exit left.

That's the sort of lazy comment my last post was alluding to. Not one person has said that they are enraged by it. Read what people are actually saying. Considering it a pointless and unhelpful exercise is not being enraged by it.

I was just allowing some tolerance mate. I'm not sure that racism was a necessary part of our evolution, but sadly it's not going away. What the solution is I don't know, but the knee isn't it. The sad thing is that we'll soon have people piping up with accusations that people who don't believe the knee is productive are "racism apologists", or worse.

Racism is abhorrent. What should I be expected to do about it though? Genuine question. What I can say with a degree of certainty is that footballers taking the knee won't stop racists being racist. It's just not the solution.

He's playing well below himself there, but he'll make a living and get regular football at last. Hopefully he can stay fit, get games, and move up to a better level.

Sorry to hear that mate. Hope she's OK.

Nice. Shit at keepy-uppies though, I can do more than that.

You're not. He's got pace, good touch, can finish. Made of glass though and not had a run of games. I'd keep him.

It's nice to note that this persona has a sense of humour mate.

Never seen the kid play, and hopefully he lives up to the hype. Seems like a winger/wing back so not sure how that'll fit with our system. We won't get to see the deal details, but the buy back option is kind of like us getting a development fee after a loan. Bit weird, but it's a creative way of getting players and a bit of a win for everyone.

From the few comments on twitter, it's fair to say that he's rated by Chelsea fans.

Absolutely, I'm not saying it had to be Williams. I'm just surprised that a £2m loan fee was an issue. Going way back to their promotion year, we took a 7 figure loan fee from Leicester (a championship club then) for a midfielder (name escapes me), and 7 years later we're baulking at not much more for a player who can cover both sides in the Premier League.

Having defensive cover, or an alternative, is vital. We often fell apart when we had to change our defence last season. We need full back cover/options and Williams would have given us that. As it is, we've got Valery and Djenepo and of we had to play both of them, plus say Stephens, it'd be carnage.

Hmmm. Not sure what to make of that. If the lad is rated as say a £10m player, then a £2m loan fee is about right. Not sure what our issue is.

How long until we all die Dic? Is it worth me putting anything into my pension this year?

Unwell

We do, and I'm in the "stats only tell half the story" camp. Whilst I've read above that there all sorts of stats that tell us all sorts, I've never seen them published anywhere or discussed on here. Regardless, if the club has access to these stats and has analysed them, they've done us no favours in terms of the rather important stats of not conceding goals and/or keeping a lead. That's down to mentality.

Ditto.

You figured out who he is yet?

It always pours rather than rains for that lad. Awful luck.

Grealish is the best English midfielder / winger imo. Whether he's worth £100m isn't for me or you to say, and why it bothers you that one football club are willing to pay that to another I can't understand. How much JWP is worth neither of us know, but the £50-65 m some fans claim is mental. He's a decent midfielder who takes a great free kick, that's it. If he goes, I'd like us to get as much as possible, but nobody will pay anything like £50m for him. The loan. It has to be repaid, that's how it works. Asking fans on a forum for evidence that we've spent it is as daft as me asking for proof that we haven't. However, nobody borrows that amount of money on such high interest rates, without needing the money. The issue is a) paying the interest, anyone with any sense would agree that wasting about 5% of your annual turnover on interest is best avoided; and b) where do we get the capital from to repay any capital we draw down on. Anyways, I've said more than enough on the subject. I'll leave you to it.