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I've made it clear over the course of this evening what I feel about the subject. Your perception of debate isn't the same as mine or that of a reasonable person. I disagree with you, and have no interest in engaging with you.

Night Minsk, sleep it off and we'll chat tomorrow x

You're being a bit of a cock mate. I've explained myself quite clearly on JWP. You're ego is clearly dented that someone disagrees with your view thy JWP is brilliant. If it's cathartic for you to have a little rant on here, you crack on, it seems like you need all the help you can get.

Blimey, you're on one tonight aren't you. You like JWP, we get that. "I believe, I believe"...well guess what sweetheart, others can disagree.

After the first few lines of vitriol I couldn't be arsed to read on...all that from someone asking if someone else is insecure. Bless.

Passive?

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That's so wrong. Watch his goals for Albania, for us, last season. He's not a poacher. He has that rare ability to make a goal for himself, and finish ridiculously well.

Yep, he's a decent player, just not as good as some make out. There's a reason he's an international bit part player.

He was the best of an average lot last season, his dead balls being the highlight. Fans of other clubs see the highlight reel and based in that, its understandable that they'd expect to have seen him picked. The England management will have seen the games, and understand it, so it's understandable why they left him at home.

Interesting...do you have access MLG?

Tino will destroy him.

Absolutely. There's no stat for that. JWP is very slow at using the ball for a premier league player. Diallo is much better in that respect.

It's a game of opinions Minsk, but for me, we looked far better in the 3 games that JWP was out than we had previously. Judging Diallo coming into a game 80 mins in isn't comparing apples with apples.

Gotcha, just read from the top. On the pitch it doesn't translate in that way. For me, we look better - slicker, quicker, more progressive - with Diallo in the side.

I too would like to see this for this season. Diallo was settling last season, played a bit part, and played across various positions. Stats based on that against regular starters in their preferred positions are largely meaningless. Also, those stats don't show what we all can see namely that JWP takes about a fortnight to use the ball thus slowing us down, whereas Diallo releases it much quicker.

Catch

This is disappointing SOG. You wanted a serious discussion on what is a sensitive issue. Lighthouse set the right scene with a very warmly worded post. It was going well, so your starting with the criticism was unhelpful and unnecessary. That's the kind of behaviour that makes me agree with Whelk when he says that some of your criticism is self inflicted. Disappointing.

Forever

Yep. Not even that gets proper help sadly. I was hearing the other day of an average 16 week wait time for people on crisis to even be triaged. Appalling.

Syrup

Thanks SOG, very much appreciated 👍

We're going around in ever decreasing circles mate. You have absolutely no information to support that players have led this - apart form Troy Deeny's missus designing the logo. I've spoken with players who think it's bollox. Hypo has done the same. Several black players have said its bollox. Yet you, a white guy, says its definitely a player led thing, an assertion based on nothing. Let's agree to differ on this. Enjoy your Saturday mate 👍

Thanks SOG for posting that. There's too much stigma and judgement re MH, and there shouldn't be. If my back goes I see an osteopath, so to prevent that from happening, I go for sports injury massage. Our minds and MH need that preventative attention too. The NHS is great, but shocking re MH. I grew up with parents with MH issues and back then it was pills and a label, not therapy and CBT etc. One of my kids has serious MH issues and the NHS have been shocking. Fortunately, good help was/is available via the Priory, but for those who can't afford these private sources, it must be bloody dreadful.

We'll never agree on this, and we don't have to. I live and work in a commercial world, and I'm comfortable with my view that this has never been player led. Indeed, I'd hazard a guess that very few players want to do this, and that the vast majority think its utter bollox and do it out of obligation.