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Still no suggestions for how to do with the reality we face. What to do? Carey on as we are, crack on and hope for the best, or something else? If its the latter, what do you say it should be other than squeezing millions of people onto the IOW or ferries?

Barca sold Neymar, Real sold Ronaldo. Every club is a selling club if a player wants to leave.

Two ridiculous suggestions. It's not any of our jobs to solve the crisis, but nobody should shout something down where there is no sensible alternative available. I've read pages of whingeing on here, but not one sensible alternative to what we've got. Not one.

And what's yours? I've heard loads of complaints about the current situation, people claiming that they're not saying that they seek a free for all, but unless I've missed something, no suggestions about what they say we should be doing. I'm genuinely interested in options because lock downs ain't working, but a free for all won't work.

That response highlights that there's no creditable alternative to doing what we're doing or opening things up and taking our chances.

Jeez, you're obsessed pal. The game's over, we didn't get a pen, people have a different opinion to you, move on.

Such as?

Quite. People want their cake and eat it - an open society but an NHS capable of servicing that open society when thousands more need medical treatment. I'm baffled that people can't comprehend something so simple.

Of course it was borderline otherwise VAR wouldn't have looked at it for an eternity and then not given it. There's not one Saints phone who could honestly say that they would have been happy if a pen was given against us for that. Nonetheless, I repeat that we shouldn't have to rely on decisions like that to win football matches. Fulham were there for the taking and we weren't good enough on the day.

Yep. I'd have gone nuts if that was given against us. Besides, we shouldn't be relying on borderline decisions to win games against teams near the bottom of the league.

Duck, you miss the point. The NHS can't cope - see the link below. Opening society as we would all like, will spread the virus and put further strain on the NHS. It's a simple concept that you can't open society without putting further strain on a struggling NHS. If it's not a stark choice between doing what we have been, or opening up society in the knowledge that'll mean the NHS struggles more than it currently is, what is the way forward before we're all vaccinated and/or have herd immunity? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55454280

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Agreed. Stephens had a good game. We missed Vestergaard bringing the ball out and his long passes, but as a defender, I thought Stephens did very well. There's no denying though that the turnaround in Vestergaard is something else. If we was quicker on the ground and on the turn he'd have the lot, but not even Ralph can coach that into him.

Yep, lockdowns are doing nothing positive. But you make the contradiction that many do - you criticise lockdowns but highlight how the NHS isn't able to do its job. If you are suggesting that we fully open society / economy (bar protecting the vulnerable) and let the virus do its worst, that'll put massive pressure on the NHS and mean that it won't be able to treat all the Covid sufferers needing treatment, let alone anyone else. Are you asking for an open society or an NHS better placed to pick up and deal with new cancer cases? You can't have it both ways.

Thanks for that. The last 2 paragraphs are what people need to hear. There's such a huge focus on living or dying from this, not what some people have to live with, as well as a misconception that you'll only have issues if you're over 60 and/or have existing health issues. Yep, the vaccine roll out can't come soon enough. Until now I agree, the approach has been neither one thing or another, but that's probably about the best balance. Complete lockdown throughout would have been carnage MH wise, and financially. Complete opening up would have been complete carnage for the NHS. My main issue has been the high levels of indecision and delay.

That may be the only option. For me, it seems a stark choice of trying to keep the spread down as best we can but at great financial cost, or opening things up and dealing with it the best we can. I really can't see any other option. They're both appalling, but it looks like one or the other. Hospitals don't cure this stuff. Most people recover at home. Some have complications that may need medical care on an outpatient basis. Others have to go to hospital, get out of danger, then go home and access the NHS as when needed. Some die. Stats for all of that will take forever, but for now, the government must choose between a hard and a hard place, and get pelted whatever they do.

Moaning is always pointless, but that performance wasn't worthy of praise was it. Missing our new best CB shouldn't have been a great issue and defensively at least, it wasn't. Diallo and JWP in midfield should have been enough to dominate in there, but it wasn't. Our reject Reed played far better than Diallo. Adams was poor, Long shocking bar one shot straight at the keeper and an offside goal. We were poor in a game we should have won with the players available.

People are moaning because we were poor today. We looked disjointed, lacking in ideas, and no creativity. There can be no criticism of people for pointing that out.

No idea. What's your solution? Open up society and let people overwhelm the hospitals? You can't have an open society, reduced spread, but hospital beds for all who get ill.

They'll be oval shaped chocolate gifts to celebrate the arrival of Spring. Nothing to do with Easter. No. Not at all.

How will that improve by diverting resources to Nightingale Hospitals?

No idea. Who'll staff them? Machines? You've gotta be able to service the rest of the NHS which is fucked as it is. It's comical how many people argue to let us get on with it, but then whinge that their/their wife's/their mums hospital procedure has been cancelled.

That's your opinion, but regardless, we've shut the economy to stop the NHS becoming overwhelmed, not for any other reason. It's pretty obvious from the hospital numbers that we had to act. Where we go is the issue - it seems our choice is carry on doing what we're doing or open it right up making it clear that the NHS is 1st come 1st served, so behave or you could be fucked. I don't advocate the latter, so the former is teh lesser of 2 evils.

To be fair, he's been our bright spark. Only he and KWP have broken between the lines.

Yep. Been very solid. Great positioning too.