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Indeed. It's not even a discussion is it? Just imagine going into 2021 with the financial rebuild from this and WTO terms. Carnage.

Not at all. It was a simple question. I'll assume your answer is no. If that's the case then you fall into the deluded category. To suggest that there were no signs there that could have allowed our government to take a more positive, direct and efficient route is utter madness. Their faffing and indecision has costs all sorts of lives and decimated the economy of unnecessary billions. That's undeniable to normal folk. If you disagree with the above, and maintain that there was no information available to assist with achieving a better outcome for our country, can you please explain how Germany have done so much better. Perhaps they didn't follow what was foreseeable and just got lucky eh?

It was a yes or no question mate....

Do you or do you not accept that the government have got things badly wrong?

Do you or do you not accept that the government have got things badly wrong?

Read the words mate. They are reporting the results of "preliminary" investigations carried out by the Chinese authorities. It's not their findings or opinion. Subsequently they have been very clear what should and should not be done. Germany have listened. They're OK. We've haven't. We're far from OK.

Have a day off being a ***t mate. The WHO who said test and trace etc. The one that said don't fanny around. The one who said learn from Italy etc. You know, the one who said do pretty much everything we haven't done.

Behave. Look at how South Korea and Germany dealt with this. Look at the warnings from the WHO to everyone, and from Italy to others. We lacked foresight, pointing that out is not hindsight.

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I enjoy working from home and I've become much more efficient. I've improved my IT skills drastically and learned to fend for myself rather than rely on staff. I've been much more connected with friends and family. I've been able to sit down every day to have dinner with my wife and little one. I've even had time able to cook. I've realised that I don't need a gardener, and that gardening is actually OK. Not being able to get out to shops has made me think about whether I need something or just want it. I've become more grateful for everything I have.

Mate, I've got the concessions I wanted from you and highlighted your arrogance in daring to suggest that Christians, in your disrespectful opinion, "don't need God". I'm leaving it there. Have a good evening, and God bless ?

It's high but not that high. All I know is that the longer I'm sat home near the fridge, I'm gaining weight and getting unfit thus reducing my chances of beating it when I get it!

Please explain why you feel you are in position to challenge or question the advice we are being given which is based on scientific advice. Perhaps those scientists know more than you.

I ain't a Christian mate. Instead I'm open minded and tolerant of Christians and people of other faiths. I'm also tolerant of atheists and agnostics, but only when they are respectful of the rights of others to pursue faith. I'm intolerant of idiots who dare to suggest that people who have faith are idiots for having it.

I have. You've now agreed that a) priests don't promote rape and the killing of others, and b) that the current message of Christianity is not one of approval of rape, infanticide, and genocide. Well done. You then gave your opinion that Christians are rewriting Christianity and that you believe that Christians "don't need God". I won't have a debate with you about that, but I will highlight the absolute arrogance of you daring to suggest that Christians (I'm not one for the record) "don't need God". If they feel that they do, then leave them to it.

When I asked you 7 million posts ago if you believed that the current message of Christianity was one supporting rape, and killing, you said yes. I'm glad you've done an about turn but it's a shame that it's taken so much effort.

Hallelujah!! Flowing from that, do you now accept that the current message of Christianity is not one of approval (I'll stop short of promotion as that upset you) of rape, infanticide, and genocide? Again, yes or no.

Do you accept that priests, who talk about Christianity and the Bible, don't and wouldn't promote or advocate killing another or rape? 1 word only is required - yes or no. Nothing more.

I refer to my previous post mate. Only an idiot would not be prepared to accept that village priests don't promote rape and killing.

Bless you MLG. I'll end this with you now, it's tedious. If you haven't got the grace to concede that priests do not promote rape, genocide and infanticide; and seemingly the existence of the deadly sins, then there's no point carrying this on with you.

Dunno mate. I'm not a church man either, but I would bet my £20k to your 20 pence that the priest would more likely say love thy neighbour, not rape thy neighbour. Re Turkish comments, he's a big boy and can look after himself. That said, his reference to the whole context of the bible is highly relevant. Have a read of that list of deadly sins and then consider just thou shall not kill alongside MLG's belief that the bible promotes killing. Then go a stage further and take an educated guess as to which of those 2 messages the vicar is actually promoting.

Another one that feels that pursuing religion is "idiocy". Given your prejudice and narrow mindedness I'll ignore you.

No he's not. He's given his interpretation of an ancient book. He says that his interpretation is the message that is still being given. He could say that even if his interpretation is correct, that he acknowledges that his interpretation of the book is not the message being given to Christians in village churches by Old men in cloaks.

I've asked you whether you feel that the current message of Christianity is to promote rape and genocide etc. You say that it is. When I ask where and how that message is being distributed you simply refer to the bible. That's an ancient scripture. It's not the current message. You will not find a village priest standing up on a Sunday telling the congregation to rape their neighbour or kill their newborn infant will you. If you seriously think that's the message being given then you're crazy.