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You're not wrong. It's a disgrace.

Indeed. The bottom line he is just a CEO. Nc is not bigger than the club and he ain't bigger than the liebherrs. I can't see the liebherrs allowing nc to win a power struggle. I suspect that they have the ability, and means, to be at least as tough as nc.

While I'd like him to stay based on his massive achievements on the pitch, there's no doubt that the liebherrs will have ceo's in their businesses that could come in and do a job.

Tokes, they'll be no break durn from me but thanks for the concern. Strangely enough I've no opinion on a political discussion on a footy thread. My one comment was about comparisons between posters and possible double posting, You bit because you're an attention whore. As for backtracking, you are the iidiot who thought we should meet for a fight because I dared highlight how much of an idiot you were being on a thread. We had a few pm's and that was that. Now you're being an idiot again. Just wind your neck in. If you want to carry on a pointless discussion please pm so that I can tell you what an idiot you are in private and allow other posters to discuss what they're actually supposed to be discussing.

Eh? Who with? I think he's in the 10m+ bracket but I'd fight tooth and nail to keep him, he's pretty much the first name on the team sheet I would imagine.

Purely based on the fact that mayuka hasn't delivered, that forren hasn't featured and that IMO gaston has flattered to deceive. My comment that it was 20m wasted was a bit flippant. 20m that probably could have been better spent would be more accurate. Either way, that transfer business looks pretty poor based on what I've seen so far.

Tokes,it is bad enough having to read your drivel at the best of times, but when you go off subject it becomes very tedious. It would probably be ok if you were as entertaining as you think you are, but you're not.

Btw this is a great thread and I for one couldn't give a monkeys if bear is Tokyo, turks is del, dd is batman, scooby is ****gy or whatever. Can you please take that sh1t to the muppet show, or wherever. Cheers.

To be fair, buctotim makes many good points. Mayuka, gaston and forren has been 20m wasted. Irrespective of who is right and who is wrong, we have drawn bad press. The contracts given to Barnard, butterfield, Davies and others over recent seasons has to be questioned. I'm in the "yes" camp but its not wrong to highlight errors in NC's judgement.

If that's right then nc is gone. The liebherrs are massive, nc isn't.

I have no idea of the trust arrangements. The club may he hived off from the other assets, or part of a pot. My gut feel is that the trustees are concerned, or are being advised,that throwing money at the club is not a sound or proper use of trust monies.

Trusts contain assets which can work in varying ways. Ordinarily, the assets within them become the property of other people, the beneficiaries. They, or other beneficiaries, could also receive an income from the trust assets. The trusts are managed by trustees. Their obligation, always, is to the beneficiaries. Common sense says that no trustee would want to pump money into a football club forever more.

The problem is that trustees have an obligation to look after, and safely invest, trust money. Pumping money into a football club is not an investment. Whilst Markus wish may have been one thing, the obligations of trustees is very different.

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Can't argue with our progress. But, if you were the owners would you get a return from any further progress? Would further investment yield a return? Probably not imo.

Unless he wins this power struggle he'll be gone. He didn't win it today and I don't think he'll win it at all. The liebherrs are massive. Cortese isn't. I'd expect a new man at the helm next season.

Cortese's plans are irrelevant though if he and the owners can't agree terms.

Someone posted this on the Sunderland build up thread: http://www.eplindex.com/31750/tottenham-1-southampton-0-indepth-tactical-analysis.html It's a bit heavy but it analyses our tactics comprehensively, and explains the changes we made to nullify spurs for most of the game.

Short term view. Long term the separation of the family is likely to do more harm to the kids, and the wider society. They'll have all sorts of separation issues and anger to add to their genetics.

Short answer is yes. We give teams much more to think about. Someone said we have no plan b. That's nonsense. We didn't under Adkins, but do now. Last weeks formation was different to the previous week, ie a different plan. We also defended slightly deeper in that game. Yesterday changes were made and both changes were involved in the goal. Results will improve after a full pre season, and a couple of signings to help give a cutting edge.

The kids are likely to replicate their parents behaviour. However, they will not turn out any better if they're dragged into care, then separated and then living a nomadic life. Hypo is right, it's not the kids fault.

You couldn't see the lounge floor.

Sadly I used to deal with these types of families when I did child care work. Part of my practice also involved defending families from eviction. Pugwash point is so true. I dealt with a case where the school were feeding the kids, taking the kids shopping, providing clean clothes and showers etc. They were constantly onto social services who did nothing despite regular complaints about alcoholic parents and the state of the house. This went on for a couple of years. Action was only taken after the family dog died and given a shallow grave in the garden. It's a sad indictment of our system when it takes a dead dog to prompt action that teachers were screaming for.

I've bought a cat c and a cat d. Both cars were bought from traders that I knew and trusted. I saw photos of the damage and was given full details of the repairs. The cars were fine, perfectly safe and complete bargains. Obviously they were sold on at less than a straight car, but I'd had them from nearish new and saved a mint so a small hit when the cars were older wasn't a problem. Often a cat d is just panel damage. That's purely cosmetic and should not deter anyone. The important thing is to know what the damage was and how it was fixed.

Agreed.