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Agreed 100%. JWP has proven himself at the top level. Downes hasn't, but he offers no less around the pitch in open play than JWP, and probably more. The areas where JWP is streets ahead is the free kicks, and fitness. Downes seems a tad fragile for whatever reason. Had he been fit all season, I think the outcome may have been different.

Adjourn

True colours.

Yeah, it's that simple 🤦 Hostages, Palestinian state/freedoms, Israeli security, release of Palestinian "prisoners", etc need to be addressed. Not just hostaged. Come on Hypo, you need to look at all sides. Practice what you preach.

Meanwhile, in other news, Israel say that they'll deepen the war, whilst killing whoever gets in their way, until they get their way. https://aje.io/5cerl2?update=2885592 In more other news, a former Israeli diplomat has stated what's always been obvious, namely that Israel won't end the war. https://aje.io/5cerl2?update=2885585 In more other news, Hamas understandably want the release of the thousands of people held by Israel without charge. There's more to this than the hostages.

Nerve touched clearly in a post littered with irony, and your true colours highlighted. So you can respond however you like, but I can't. Fuck off. "Are you really incapable of differentiating between the content of a post and the attitude of the person posting it?". Unless you're trolling or playing to the audience, the posts reflect on the poster. You've formed a view of SoG, and me, and guess what poppet, I've formed one of you. It's cuts all ways Hypo, not just the way you want it to.

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An outline of the 3 phases here. I'd be surprised if Israel agree to that. Phase 1 at a push, but that'll depend on the hostage release, and the Hamas expectations re prisoner release. https://aje.io/qzz5uf?update=2883303

You're not able to claim any moral high ground Duck. You're not islamaphobic. SoG isn't anti semitic. You have different views. There is nothing wrong in posting anti Israeli stuff in a thread about Israel and it's behaviour. It's on topic and relevant. The fact that it appears to conflict with your opinion doesn't make it wrong. What's wrong is your perception. Your use of laughing emojis about something that's not funny isn't clumsy. You don't deserve to be let off that lightly. It's deliberate and daft, you know that.

Hamas killed Israeli soldiers, in an apparent war between Hamas and Israel. They'll pick the easy targets. Anyway, you've not criticised Israel today, isn't that hypocritical on your assessment?

Bizarre. How many threads do you post on and debate for both sides of a discussion?! Nobody does. Don't be daft.

Bless. I was talking about the thread and his post. You were just joining in the little SoG slog. Bless.

Bizarre road to go down. Today started with a perfectly reasonable thread from SoG with no criticism of anyone on this thread. LD and Hypo then piped up like daft kids, a Mod then had a pop, then you, etc. The bloke has his moments, but feck me, the nonsense ain't from him today.

Here's a thought, maybe start a SoG thread?

I'm not getting into other subjects, or a general SoG debate. This is an Israel thread which I started to address the behaviour of the Israeli government. SoG's views about that are generally sound imo. Other people's, and their behaviour in this thread, less so.

Oh behave. The aid isn't coming in, and hasn't been for months cos Israel won't allow it as part of it's blockade. I repeat, should Hamas not fight back?

He's plainly Palestinian leaning, as am I. Doesn't make him a hypocrite and unable to see both perspectives.

How many children were killed by that rocket attack? How many hundreds of thousands of people will have to relocate, again, and sleep in tents. In what is apparently a war, why should Hamas be criticised for firing back at the Israeli army? Bizarre to suggest that they should just lie down.

If the hypocrisy dig isn't based on implied thoughts, I'm not sure what it's based on. Feels to be a bit of a reflection from Lighthouse imo, and jumped upon unnecessarily from people bored on a wet b/h. However you cut it, SoG has called out the behaviour of both sides. That can't be said of all the frequent posters on this thread. That leads me to what I think are reasonable assumptions.

Ha!! Regardless, the imminent attack on Rafah is mental...nobody deserves criticism for pointing that out.

He hasn't turned a blind eye to the Hamas attack. Nobody has. I don't know his views about the Iranian show. Ask him.

There's no hypocrisy in focusing on the actions of Israel on a thread about Israel. He's also been critical of Hamas. The thread that SoG posted today that got daft laughing emojis from Jupiter and LD (who, let's be frank, have shown true colours on this thread) was not a "preach" thread. It highlighted the fact that Israel actually want to attack Rafah. It's more than a bit daft to regard SoG's highlighting that as "hypocrisy". The laughing emojis from Hypo and LD, and lighthouse's little rant, say more about them than SoG's little post does about him. The cool kids ain't cool on this one.

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Where's his hypocrisy on this thread Del? What's "nasty" about not liking what's going on in Gaza?

The thing is, you and a few others shout bias, but demonstrate a blinkered and clearly biased view. Hamas are scum, Iran's attack was daft (but signposted such as to allow the defence that we saw), but what prevents anyone from recognising that, and calling out the obviously outrageous behaviour of Israel? Frankly, you've got to be a proper cunt not to call it out for the disgrace that it is.