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Nope. Tried Amazon, Argos, John Lewis, Curry's..... They've been withdrawn, but you would have thought shops would be selling existing stock

Anyone know anywhere still selling ipod classics? Apple discontinued them last month. It was on the cards for a while I suppose - middle aged blokes who want to carry their entire large music collection around in their back pocket are a small share of the market. Can't help feeling annoyed about it though

Aren't these supposed to be 'favourite' XIs not 'best'? Shilton would be the best keeper (best player?) I've ever seen play for Saints, but he was decidedly odd (read David Armstrong's biography), while Kelv was a hero all through the relegation, administration, and promotions. Similarly Golac was great to watch but far too ill-disiplined in away games to be best ever RB. Terry Paine would walk into any all-time Saints team for anyone of my generation, but he was a horrible niggly sod - and a Tory councillor!

Not best but favourite Davis K Golac McGrath Steele Dennis Ball Case Holmes Channon Lambert Le Tisser Subs: Martin, Fonte, Benali, O'Neil, Pahars, Osgood, Davies

Coverage of our game was ok - just. Thing that annoyed me most was the pundits going on about how good Chambers and Oxlade-Chamberlain were together in the Arsenal/Spurs game without mentioning us once and one said how Wenger had a reputation for developing young players

First ever cup win over Arsenal

Great choices. I love Studio One music and the Heptones 'On Top' album would be one of my top five. Reggae was mostly singles based for me - I still have the shoebox full of 45s - but others would be Prince Far I's 'Under Heavy Manners', Augustus Pablo's 'King Tubby Meets the Rockers Uptown', 'Exodus' and the Burning Spear live album from the Rainbow in 1977. Other genres - John Coltrane - A Love Supreme ; Dylan - Blood on the Tracks ; the first Clash album; Bill Evans - 'Sunday at the Village Vanguard' - and 'Exile on Coldharbour Lane' by the Alabama 3

Jimmy Case won three

What was so annoying about that goal (apart from the obvious), was that if the chance had fallen to anybody else they'd have have had to take another touch, as it bounced at chest height, and then Shilton would have had more chance of saving it However, for Adrian bastard Heath, the shortest man (or tallest midget) ever to play professional football, it was at head height... For those who weren't there it was the most gut-wrenching moment in my 40+ years of follwing SFC Please, please beat them on Sunday!

Golac always gets in 'best ever' Saints XIs. I'd only ever consider him if the game this team was supposed to be playing was at home - as he was a liability in away games Mick Mills would still be my pick - it's no coincidence that we had our best ever season in 1983-84 when we had our best ever defence. However, with the way Clyne is going, he'll certainly be a contender for best ever RB in a season or two

Signing Will Smith from Durham apparently. Given the speculation about whether Jimmy Adams would stay as captain does this mean Smith comes as skipper for next season? He won three championships with Durham, including one as captain. Looks like we're really going for promotion next year http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/10706118.Hampshire_to_sign_Will_Smith/

It's an interesting one - post-Adam Gilchrist everybody expects keepers to be worth their place in the side for their batting. At Hampshire, we've been lucky that Pothas was just about the best keeper-batsman in county cricket over the last decade, and Adie Aymes was no slouch with the bat either. I've changed my mind about Bates. I think that he brings so much to the team as a keeper that he can't be left out. As somebody said on here the other day, the extra ten or so runs are worth sacrificing. Particularly if he can get to a level where he's averaging high 20s instead of teens then he should be unchallenged as first choice

Vomit. They'll be a lot more of this to come - how the current set-up at Nottarf is the 'right way to run a club'. Totally airbrushes the previous ten years of textbook 'how not to run a club' which made even Risdale at Leeds look sane. Thay can't have it both ways - either they're proud of a local club, run for the fans, or of the recent achievements of a club run by some very dodgy people for their own ends (whatever they may have been...)

I must be in a pedantic mood - England lost that game 1-0. Mark Hughes scored on what might have been his debut. I only know this as I was sharing a house with a bloke from Newport at the time, and as we then didn't play them for another twenty years he kept reminding me about it

Just bought it this morning (£3.82 on Kindle - sorry David!) and have read most of it already. He was one of my favourite SFC players, the book is a cracking read and he's a top bloke. One small gripe though - I wish sports people or their ghost writers would bother to check their facts. In the bit on the 1983-84 season he refers twice to Everton playing Man U in the cup final after beating us in the semi, when of course it was against Watford (thus making it even more gutting to have lost at Highbury), and in the league he says that we finished three points behind Liverpool - 'but it was still two points for a win then' - that change happened in 1981. Small points , I know, but still annoying

Lord's, Sept 21st

Always annoys me a bit when people say Keegan was past his peak when at SFC. When we signed him he was the reigning European Footballer of the Year. While with us he was England captain, top scorer in the top division and PFA player of the year - none of which he was at Liverpool. To answer the original question - Keegan, Channon, Paine or Davies would all command enormous fees if playing today. The fact that most managers are now foreign would make MLT a more attractive proposition too. English managers often just saw lack of effort rather than sublime skill

MLT but also Nick Holmes - a Soton boy and there for all of the 'glory' years mid-70s to mid 80s. Dozens of players worse than him have played for England

Wow - great sppech - thanks for posting that Re this year - I think Lehmann's appointment is bad from our point of view. He always talks sense whenever I've seen him interviewed, knows England from his time with Yorks and will instill some discipline - as you wouldn't want to argue with him That said we'll still win

Very much agree with the tone of this thread. Apparently I've been a member of this forum for nearly five years but only average 0.06 posts per day. I think the main reason is the tone of many regular posters. I can't be bothered putting something up if somebody's going to respond like that. They're obviously really brave men as well, as talking to someone in that sort of tone face-to-face would merit a smack in the mouth in most pubs I've ever been in. Same rules don't seem to apply when behind a keyboard Anyway - I don't suppose any of the regulars will be looking at this thread - but if they are, how about some comment? You surely know who you are!

A very sad day. Ron's amazing ability in the air tends to overshadow how good he was on the ground and at leading the line - a fact that gets mentioned in David Bull's biography of Ted Bates. Only half of his goals were with his head Ron scored the first Saints goal I ever saw - March 1968, v Sheff Wed at the Dell, at the Archers Road end just before half time - don't remember anything else about the game! An overused word, but Ron was a true legend

Other goalkeeper is Hollowbread - played at start of 65-66 promotion season but got injured

I thought maybe Reynolds - but it's in alphabetical order isn't it? If so starts F,G,H

Frank Saul bottom right

Obviously a brilliant manager in his day - he created the best team in Premier League history - but I think his day is now done I think he was lucky when he first went to Arsenal in three respects, none of which he can repeat now. First he inherited the best defensive unit ever seen in English club football - and was smart enough not to change it too much for his first few years. Subsequent purchases of keepers or defenders - Sol Campbell apart - have not been to the same standard. Second, even as late as the 90's training methods and diet at English clubs were well below continental standards. Wenger brought Arsenal up to speed, which initially gave them an advantage (and extended the careers of Adams, Keown etc). He also pioneered the use of statistical analysis in football - derived from the 'Moneyball' approach in Baseball. But other clubs have caught up - they all now also employ dieticians and statisticians, and don't let their players drink buckets of lager at weekends. Third, Wenger came with an exhaustive knowledge of a great generation of French footballers. That particular source seems to have dried up - or at least other clubs have developed their scouting networks. Wenger was a manager of his time, forcing the Premier League to adjust, taking it from a league mostly based on English players and English ways of doing things into a style based in European best practice. Other teams have caught up, his advantages have gone. Have to admit that I never liked him, even though his teams have often been great to watch. I've got an antipathy towards him that I haven't got towards Ferguson. Part of it is the whole 'I couldn't see it' thing when some Arsenal player got sent off etc. Somebody like Wenger sees everything - he could probably recreate an entire game pass by pass - so this was also really annoying. I think the press were in awe of him so never pushed him on anything like this. Also he used to get on my nerves moaning about the physical tactics of some teams - well, duh, what are teams supposed to do? - roll over quietly? Ferguson, having managed the likes of Stirling Albion and St Mirren, and then Aberdeen against the Old Firm, never used to moan to the same extent. With the situation at Arsenal - I think the owners are happy with Wenger if he delivers Champions League football every season. So far he has. This season he quite probably won't. When he doesn't he'll be gone