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Didn't have time to post this on TMS thread before it got closed: That said, there's no need to be cruel to them.

Yes, I think so. Although it may get brought back if the baseball people bung the IOC enough.... er, I mean if the IOC change their minds. They should bring back the rope climb, crocquet and the underwater swim IMO.

Baseball has been discontinued. Because it's shi-ite.

Sorry about that. Some painful memories.

AAAGGGHHHHHH!!! Jesus.... no!

So, we never lose at Pride Park. Happy days.

Would much prefer we sign a right back and a left back as both of the current players in those positions would probably be better in midfield than Mr Pullis.

Very skilfully done CB. Indeed.

Well in fairness our expenses have gone down, with the exception of player wages. I don't think the company operates whereby player wages are the responsibility of the FD. I think historically it's been the manager and chairman's responsibility. Look at Lowe's profile on the OS to see who takes the "credit" for player negotiations.

Directors of all companies have responsibilties to the shareholders whether they are publically owned or not. Chelsea was a bad example I suppose, yes. I imagine they only have one shareholder. The point I was trying to make was that if any business has its revenue cut by more than 50% within two years, it's going to struggle. I agree with you that all board members should be under scrutiny. I just think that when you look at what has happened, Dave Jones is not a significant player.

As Scooby would say, "I thank god almighty the professionals have returned".

Evidently. I think we need to remember that football clubs make losses, generally. They operate in an industry which is structurally skewed to enable the rich to get richer and to prevent competition and fair play. For most of the time Dave Jones has worked for the company we have been moderately succesful, as far as football clubs and finance go. Recently we have not been. This is mostly due to relegation, which after two years, causes revenue to be cut by at least two thirds. This has been exacerbated by spending levels which demanded promotion. Due to bad footballing management and underperformance from players this didn't happen. The spending would have been sanctioned at board level and was not exlusively within Dave Jone's purview. Maybe Chelsea's financial director should resign or "speak out" because they make a loss?

As for the Secure Retirement connection... again, wouldn't this make it all the more likely that he would have been swept out by Wilde? Firmer evidence that he must be regarded as a good egg IMO.

FFS. Calm down. I imagine he was doing his job of preparing forecasts, budgeting, etc... I have no idea whether Dave Jones is any good at his job or not. I would suggest that the fact that a multitude of people have held the top job and have all chosen to keep him on indicates that he probably is quite good. His job is not to decide whether we buy players or how much we pay them; it is to make sure the board (of which he has a part and in which he has one vote) has an accurate picture of the financial ramifications of its decisions. Do you honestly think that Hone, Dulieu, Wilde etc didn't know they were spunking money in a big gamble? Do you think Dave Jones really needed to spell that out to them? Of all the people to castigate or question I think he is way down the list. You are rapidly becoming a self-parody.

That's cheating, that is.

Sorry - it's Davies fault that they had an unchallenged header and there was no one on the post? Even Svennson himself has admitted he screwed up for that goal and James' "challenge" that lead to the freekick was dreadful. Kelvin has been one of our best 3 players this season IMO. If people think we're going to do any better in our current state then they need to wake up. Stern's miss, Svensson's ****-ups, John's lack of fitness, a poorly selected bench.... all have been much more influential on our two league defeats than anything Davis has done yet we still get mongs saying "we're going to lose because Davis is playing". Really ticks me off. You might as well say, "we're going to lose because Svennson is playing".

Ooohhh... look at the big tough police - "we have looked at ASBOs" - I bet their knees are shaking so hard their tracky bottoms are about to catch fire. Try arresting and charging the little ****s.

What happened?

The Latvian was a right little tubster. Apparently he's an MP too!

Some of the sailing birds were alright.

Fat bastards.

Cool - cheers for the advice. Was at Real Madrid v Roma last year in the Champions League and some of the Roma fans were best avoided!

Well I've been to both league games. He has been excellent in both.

Cheers. I'm just going to go to the ground and get the tickets when I get there. It probably won't be a derby match or one of the big clubs so shouldn't be a problem getting them. Lol - is that a lesson learnt the hard way? Whenever I see Italian footy on the telly it always looks as though the OB are itching for an excuse to unleash a baton charge on the ultras - is that not the case then? When I went to the Lisbon derby there was a mass brawl and also a police charge on the ultras (once they had managed to break through the human blockade that had been speedily erected). :smt075