tdd make sure you do some sick deals like offer £0 upfront then add how much you wanna pay over 48 month you can spend like 300 million and markus will never let you get into debt ;]
I hate the beatles and the stones but comparing rage v joe to that rivalry is ridiculous, joe v rage was a commercial load of rubbish but atleast the stone's was actually about the music abit like the mushroomhead slipknot one.
LOL at the people saying every one who bought the RATM single is evil and wants to destroy joe's aspirations. All these hardcore "joe" fans would never EVER have heard of him if he wasn't on crap-factor