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Its not me, its GM who called Dover a tinpot port compared to Southampton.

So we have two trust fund babies, a motivational speaker and a crony capitalist running the show. Miss Li, unless she's Gao's mistress, seems to be the only one with any technical expertise. #mess

And I'm sure those 950,000 vehicles take pride of place in the 10.9 million tonnes of ro-ro and lo-lo freight that Southampton handled in 2017. It doesn't change the FACT that its still significantly smaller than the 25.9m tonnes of freight that Dover handled over the same period The gravel and cement reference was a gag and its certainly landed The more serious point is that Southampton's main cargo by freight tonnage is liquid bulk (crude oil), a basic, undifferentiated commodity. It may not be sexy or glamorous work but someone's got to do it. At least its not Grimsby & Immingham.

I see Neil Chen emerging bit of a darkhorse. Any mainlander who has the balls to call himself Neil is destined to go far IMO.

Exhibit XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX1 that you're a monumental f**kwit Freight for Southampton in 2017 was 34.5 million tonnes - 23.6 million tonnes (68%) was liquid and dry bulk and 10.9 million tonnes (32%) was ro-ro and lo-lo freight. Freight for Dover in 2017 was 26.2 million tones - 289.000 tonnes (1%) was liquid and dry bulk and 25.9 million tonnes (99%) was ro-ro and lo-lo freight. I'll leave the frantic googling to you pal. I've downloaded the actual data from DfT (file extension port0304.ods). The figures speak for themselves pal - the majority of Southampton's trade is in liquid and dry bulk whereas its trade in manufacturing goods via ro-ro and containerised lo-lo services is smaller than Dover (10.9m tonnes vs. 25.9m tonnes). Head full of cement, gravel and crude oil (if it makes you feel better) indeed

Southampton is larger than Dover in terms of freight tonnage (34.5m vs 27.5m in 2017) but most of this cargo (62%) is liquid bulk.

Any f**kwit can use google -you’re living proof of it JJ. It doesn’t mean they understand the figures, how they are derived and what they mean. There is a world of difference between handling bulk commodities and complex goods -both in terms of the customs checks they require and their value-added. When we focus on the ports that handle trade in manufacturing goods predominantly via roll-on roll-off and containerised lift-on lift-off services, ports like Dover become much more important: the recent House of Lords report estimates that Dover handles up to 17% of the UK’s trade in goods, second only to Felixstowe (and to repeat Dover is the country’s largest ro-ro port). Southampton handles about 6% of that trade according to the DfT. Your head might be full of cement and gravel pal; but they don’t make the rest of the world go round.

He’s a CEO, not a DoF.

Just saying that if he’d be on my shortlist of suitable candidates whereas others don’t appear to rate him. Of course whether he’d be a desirable hire is one thing; whether it’d be feasible is quite another, though I don’t think it’s beyond the realm of possibility.

Agree Steve Walsh is very good - his success at Leicester predated Ranieri and has long enough track record to conclude that it’s not just luck.

I’m sure every club-manager breakdown has the same characteristics, so it’s not necessarily unique to Hughes.

Whatever makes you feel better, we’re one big family.

The news has hit you hard, hasn’t it pal?

Game’s moved on since 2010. Might be difficult to pick up where he left off. Good luck Les.

Je suis Les.

Thank f**k we’ll have enough gravel and coal in the case of a no deal. As usual you haven’t got a clue. Why do you make it so easy for me Btw it’s DfT not DTI - the latter hasn’t existed for more than a decade you plum.

The proverbial monkey and the typewriter would have had a better strike rate in the transfer market than Les since the 2015 summer window. Staggeringly incompetent.

In all their vileness, I bet the c**ts didn’t claim the fire began in a MDMA factory.

You’ve made a fool again of yourself JJ - other than being a sadist I don’t know why you subject yourself to such repeated embarrassment. If you want to add up freight by tonnage (the basis of your little 6% number) and make absolutely zero distinction between simple bulk freight (crude oil, coal, gravel, cement powder etc) on the one hand and more differentiated, complex goods which are still largely handled through roll-on roll-off services on the other, fill your boots. However to the rest of us, you look a bit dim and out of your depth. Dover is the UK’s largest ro-ro port by a country mile. FACT.

I’m talking about roll-on roll-off freight which includes but is not limited to the import and export of motor vehicles.

Trust a simpleton to simplify a problem: Southampton largely handles liquid bulk (crude oil, liquified gas, oil products etc) which, as an undifferentiated commodity, is far easier to check from a customs perspective. Dover is the UK’s busiest port for roll-on roll off freight -roads good vehicles and import/exports of motor vehicles and UK ports still handle much more roll-on roll-off cargo than lift-on lift-off i.e. containerised cargo.

I know what you mean pal. It’s important we stick together. Some would choose to gloat, especially after taking so much abuse for so many years but you’ve been remarkably magnanimous. A real credit to our fanbase.

Who’s going to pick a new manager? We don’t have the expertise or capacity. Can’t see RK pulling the trigger until the review has been completed and a new DoF appointed. Indeed any prospective DoF worth his salt would want a say in the appointment process which points to waiting.

Sounds like it’s effectively bought Hughes a lifeline till January (at the very least).

Its nothing like Wenger tbh.