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The mother, Sue, is my favourite character in the series.

We always take large numbers there -and one of the closest grounds to get to for a midweeker.

But the experts told us that Johnson’s DT article was no more than an impassioned defense of the burqa in a liberal democracy and we were ignoring the wider context https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/paul-golding-conservatives-britain-first-boris-johnson-muslim-women-letterboxes-a9254061.html https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/28/britain-first-far-right-members-5000-have-joined-tories

Is that the one with the munter in the swindon town shirt? Yep very good.

I now know where you got your username pal.

Was at the game and had a cracking day out pal. But that doesn’t mean you can’t (attempt to) be objective about individual performances while being delighted by the overall result and performance.

Not as much as the MOBO awards.

It’s a US sitcom but Eastbound and Down is extremely underrated. Talk about a cancel culture is way overblown when shows like that could survive and prosper.

Friends in the same sentence as Blackadder, especially the final scene from Blackadder Goes Forth? Jesus wept.

If we’re nitpicking on what was a brilliant performance, Bertrand and PEH were relatively poor. Che Adams struggled immensely first half but turned things around in the second half. Even Redmond was a bit off the pace in the first half before taking over the game (with Armstrong and JWP) after the break.

A bit derivative in places (with its The Office influences) but People Just Do Nothing was good.

Its like the mboard equivalent of a kickabout in No Mans Land.

Merry xmas GM (if he can read this) and all.

I expressed no opinion whether its bull or not. I just said its not the official measure used by the government. What is bull is your statement that its mathematically impossible to get rid of poverty on this type of relative poverty measure. I hope santa has got you a dummies guide to measuring poverty and mathematics.

Why are quoting an unofficial measure of poverty and no it’s not mathematically impossible to get rid of poverty - it just means a more compressed income distribution. Dear me. If Les isn’t enough already.

What do you mean by original deal?

Keep repeating it - unfortunately circular thinking, impotent rage and blanket charges don't make your points any truer Les. I'm simply reminding you of the facts. It is a fact that in the winter of 2017 May had provisionally reached agreement with the EU over a NI-only backstop but was forced to abandon it after the DUP and Arlene Foster found out. If she hadn't squandered her majority, she could have secured support for that deal from her own backbenches, including the ERG (the same ERG that voted for Johnson's deal which was a basically a rehash of this earlier proposal) and thrown the DUP under the bus.

Taking lessons in literalism from MLG pal? Anyway crack on with talk of £70-80m.

£70-80m - then again you think half our side can walk into top 8/10 sides

Most economists agree that deficit reduction should have been delayed following the financial crisis. And while fiscal consolidation was sensible at some point, the pace and scale of it was unnecessary. Many of the economic arguments made for austerity at the time -how if borrowing continued on its then track, the markets would have panicked, leading to eye-watering interest rates and inflation- turned out to be bunkum. That’s conveniently forgotten by the project fear fanboys.

Calm down Les. Raking over old coals - perhaps don’t jump into others conversation without any context then. As for your points, it’s your usual par for the course drivel and misunderstanding. I suspect if May hadn’t called and botched the 2017 GE which had nowt to do with Brexit (she was still the hardliner back then), we would have ended up with something like we have today i.e. a NI frontstop (remember she initially agreed it with the EU). It was only because she lost her majority and made the DUP critical to her government’s survival that she was forced ditch the idea. Anyway that is only of passing relevance to the original conversation regarding Johnson’s future back in 2016 -and let’s not forget everyone (well dopey Brexiters like you) thought the negotiations would be a piece of pîss. Finally a word of advice: if you don’t like a conversation, perhaps stick to your own - there’s one on another thread awaiting a response pal

FWIW my jewish mates didn't think we'd better off economically.

Exactly right. If the £350m for the NHS line on a Brexit bus wasn't appealing to economics, I don't know what was. Nor can the take back control line be separated from economics. Its hard to be genuinely free, sovereign or strike out on your own if you don't have enough have money - that applies as much to individuals as it does to countries. Never mind the Brexit thread is full of arguments about an economically dysfunctional EU and the wonderful trading opportunities that lie outside it. Economic and cultural security are fundamentally entwined - some go so far as to argue that economic insecurity leads to a greater demand for cultural security. Historically, it's no coincidence that a backlash against diversity, tolerance and openness has coincided with periods of relative economic stagnation. See Benjamin Friedman https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/bfriedman/files/the_moral_consequences_of_economic_growth_0.pdf. Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying economics or material factors totally subsume culture just that they are not irrelevant either and that talk of binary either/ors does more to obscure than illuminate.

It doesn't follow that just because you didn't trust or vote for any of the parties that you don't hold right (or left) wing views. A nonsequitur there, little Westie.

ITK people I knew at the time pal. FWIW, this was from the Spectator in August 2017. And compared to the summer of 2016, the political winds were infinitely more favourable to him. https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/08/boris-johnson-has-returned-to-the-political-wilderness/