shurlock

"exactly the same deal"? Did Brown and Miliband offer them £1bn+ and promise to get rid of commitments that only existed in the 2017 tory manifesto? No doubt you have a sky source for that too

You sound like a Theresa May supporter - that was exactly her pitch.

Am sure that stuff goes on -after all, the university sector and student population are big enough; however I've seen no evidence that the problem is systemic.

Or ensuring that any reduction is borne more heavily by the older generations.

You mean as opposed to having to pay the older generation's debts later?

You're conflating liberalism with a leftie bias, two very different things. There are lots of reasons why the young might be more left-leaning - the young have historically been more radical and idealistic. Hard to attribute it exclusively to the education or teaching system. Frankly the young who vote Corbyn and older voters who support the Tories have more in common than you think. On one level, both are voting for parties that promise to advance their economic interests.

He looks like Geoff Capes on the Elvis Presley diet.

He was handed his CL debut in the final, though it was largely by default due to injuries and suspensions. Doesn't change my point that if you want to command the highest fees, you have to prove yourself at the highest level, typically CL football.

They also lost 6-1. http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/season=2014/matches/round=2000479/match=2011846/index.html

Agree it's a problem, though hard to say how widespread or representative it is. The teacher in question works in a strong Labour constituency (London?) where there are fewer incentives to present a different point of view. The situation is very different for left-leaning teachers who work in conservative constituencies and areas. They will face a parental backlash if they go overboard. I know from personal experience I.e.growing up in a conservative constituency that teachers who I knew to be left-leaning would park their views at the school gate. If they did bring their views into the classroom, they did so in self-conscious, self-deprecating way so we could readily identify and separate them from the course content.

In a very loose sense, I suppose. RB by default while VVD was in a Celtic side that got battered by Barca, IIRC.

Or middle-englanders will have seen constituencies like Enfield Southgate go Labour and think if they can do it, so can we.

Problem is you usually don't get those fees until a player plays in the CL and shows he can compete at the highest level, regardless how much potential he may have.

You mean literature that was produced and printed before he started gaining traction in the debates and mainstream news coverage? Many labour MPs now admit Corbyn became an asset rather than a liability as the election went on.

Could also work the other way - people feel more emboldened/less embarrassed to vote Corbyn as see others have done so. Many political and social movements have been successful this way.

Balders, you sound like an excitable yank tourist who's watched too many films on English terrace culture.

I don't know who's trolling who. Clearly this Southampton Way moniker has gotten under Samuel's skin. The more Les spouts it, the more wound up Samuel seems to get. In turn, Samuel knows exactly which buttons to press with Saints fans.

Love when Les goes leftfield.

It was a tweet, not an article. It will not have gone through the same process of scrutiny and verification that an article has done. I know mainstream journos who effectively treat Twitter as a plaything. Anyway that's besides the point. Whether it's an article or a tweet, I will always look for the original source for a chart, figure, table as journos of all stripes abuse and misuse data. In this case, the chart seems to have been fictitious. The journo was duped and by extension you were duped too. I thought you were shrewder than that, pal.

So you don't actually know the source for it - you just regurgitate what you pick up on social media. Clears things up.

You're a rich one to talk - have you dug up the source for that dodgy healthcare spending chart yet?

What do you mean Bertrand doesn't need replacing?

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/05/red-theresas-manifesto/ http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-4526034/ANDREW-ROBERTS-Theresa-alarming-traditional-Tories.html https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/01/theresa-may-is-the-most-left-wing-tory-prime-minister-for-40-years/ https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/oct/09/red-tory-theresa-may-anne-mcelvoy http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/conservative-manifesto-theresa-may-not-red-a7742741.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-4526020/TOM-HARRIS-socialists-real-leader-Theresa-May.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-39946611 Plenty more where that came from, pal.

You sound confused, Simon. Theresa May's brand of Toryism was considered pretty left-wing by Tory standards -hence why many labelled her a Red Tory. I struggle to understand what you mean by "lurch to the right", in particular, which period of modern Tory history or previous PM are you benchmarking it against?

Nada, zilch. My arthritic gran has more chance of nailing jelly to the wall than AR-10 has nailing an ITK rumour. Truly a moron of the highest order.