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HA HA ..you've forgotten Emile Heskey - haven't you, but as for Jack.....he seems better after a quick fag and he gets over his coughing fit .......

in theory (the ref.) stops one of his watches automatically when such situations occur. Only now, it's the fourth official who's responsible for that task, but the ref. can (and occasionally does) over-ride him.

iF i CAN HOP IN HERE, FELLA'S........It does seem that almost every fan on this thread has created their own scenario to prove / disprove if this is viable. I've watched the interview twice, and at best S.Blatter wasn't very clear himself about how it would work, and I suspect it was a good idea that (finally) came to him when he woke up one morning last week. It obviously needs to be carefully considered and put in to practice in a real match situations to analyse its practicality. He suggested (maybe) a trial in the forthcoming U20 Championships in N.Z. ??? In real terms the people who make the appeal will be the bench (manager / coach)...but the initiative would surely only react to serious incidents on the field and the players do that naturally. .....when players closeby a handball incident in penalty area, or feel they've had a goal " disallowed " incorrectly, " they appeal ". Nothing wrong with that. The goal-line cameras do a good job-don't they? Players see these things first hand (no pun intended)... and would appeal instinctively, whereas those who " dive " might be booked ....instead of having " conned " the ref. into giving a penalty. Being caught off side (rightly or wrongly) stops the game anyway and the action is pulled back. I don't think anyone could call for an appeal on offside... (unless a goal / penalty may have resulted from it). Acccording to SB's he suggests, the ref. would analyse and decide if he should alter his decision ...AFTER the incident with the action.....had " naturally come to a stop" ??? (goal/ corner/ free kick / etc,) Of course we won't know until FIFA come out with some rules or guidelines, but it must be worth some serious consideration.

1) for those people who want to know why a transfer didn't work and .....player X or Y......didn't sign for us, here's one of the possible reasons.... 2) for players (like Shane Long) who have been around a few years and played at different levels, here's one reason for being happy to go to the workplace, remembering that SMS is only (a workplace).. for a COUPLE OF HOURS twice a month.

well ...if we were about to sign for them, they probably would ... but just buying a ticket to watch a movie, doesn't mean we have to tell the director how to make the film ...

many people are assuming that he regains the same fantastic form he had prior to the injury....(I really hope he does).. .....but if he genuinely doesn't want to play for SFC then I hope £25 million is the starting price - especially when we see the names of those clubs (allegedly) interested in him.

I think referees will surely use their discretion, as now after a foul is committed (and he plays the advantage rule), he can go back after that play has finished.... and yellow-card the offender. In previous years, he'd stop the game to consult a linesman (sorry:blush: assistant ref.) ..now they are linked electronically and decisions come quicker, as does his " button " - signifying a goal over the line ". Appeals surely won't solve all the problems, but anything that prevents someone " not-winning " a title game / Cup match, or perhaps avoiding relegation in a vital match, must surely be a positive thing?

....but (Whitey)....you are remembering that it's the player's standing position - when the ball is kicked - and not where he is when he receives it. Thankfully now, players who are not involved in the play can be standing in an offside position, as long as they are deemed not to be interfering with play. .....(although exceptions can be: (for example) ...deliberately unsighting the goalkeeper). The parts of the body (that maybe offside have been stated)...like "handball" has to be deliberate hand-to-ball and not ball-to-hand, likewise the shoulder is not considered offside, but the upper arm is.

Firstly, apologies to those who see this thread as double...after re-reading it, I decided to re-word it to clarify the original text and inadvertantly duplicated it. However, I didn't expect so much reaction to the OP, but as both threads seem to be proceeding in different directions, and they haven't been consolidated .. I'll procede. Most people against ...seem to feel it break the flow of the game to the detriment of the attacking side. But time-wasting (if you call it that) ..occurs throughout most games anyway. examples: goal-kicks that " seem to take a lifetime " , likewise some throw-ins, and corners and especially some free-kicks. In the past, I have timed interruptions in many games and noted that; A throw-in often takes upto 20 secs. (sometimes more). A corner kick can take up (average. 45 secs) and free kicks considerably longer than that, from the time of stoppage to the ball being back in play. If you don't believe me, try timing these things yourself over a period of time. Think about that in a game with a lot of corner kicks, or dozens of free-kicks. Let's not forget that some " injuries " are little more than a harmless knock or someone simply out of breath. Some foreign sides are experts at using this tactic, and it takes even more time out of the game. It's not exclusive to overseas players, but with so many foreign players in our League(s), it has (sadly) become a trend. The Football administrators have already " built-in " an extra 30 secs. (for each substitution in a game - hence the almost standard 3 mins. added time in many games.) Making a sub. in the final minutes is a standard way of taking the momentum out of an attacking side trying for a winning goal - and managers know that. It's difficult to gauge (from Blatter's interview) exactly how he thinks this should work. There are certainly no clear-cut rules as yet - except (he said) ..the appeal (one allowed in each half) will take place AFTER the game has stopped, (presumably after a hand ball / penalty appeal, or " offside goal ") - as the present goal-line technology already deals with cases of the ball actually crossing the line. He also said that it could only work in games that were televised. This seems to be a problem for those who feel that is unfair on others, but no-one can surely expect games played at Millbrook Rec. to be placed on a par with a vital Prem. game or a World Cup qualifier. Of course, it won't be a perfect system and (as now)... the ref. may decide to give someone the benefit of the doubt, but IMO anything that improves the honesty of the final result has to be a good thing. and it may encourage TV to make more games available, but anything that can clarify a vital moment must be an advantage to fair play. It does in many other sports (even fast moving ones like Ice-hockey) If the goal-line cameras can give a response within seconds, then a review of an offside situation can come equally as quickly.... (I watch many games on TV and it doesn't take so long).

maybe some of the media will agree with you, but RH will just keep repeating .. " we got the 3 points!"

Reply; 1) "dominates the sport?....thank goodness we have it....I don't get to SMS nearly as often as I'd like to. TV coverage of a game shows a lot of action / replays, though not the atmosphere sadly. 2) for review....I mean " review ". I feel more satisfied when I can see if a player was offside, was " really " fouled, or IF a goal was in or not. 3) Pelle off side? . Admitedly, it looked close but the TV commentator (s) on my channel were fairly convinced he wasn't. SWEDEN : Bit of rain about in Stockholm, but clearer weather on the way Wed. / Thursday. 20 deg.+

whilst I agree with your point, I have often timed " stoppages " in games and the average throw-in can easily take upto 20 secs., a corner - usually around 45 secs. and free-kicks can take min.1 minute often longer....... Not to mention the obvious stoppages for injuries, bookings etc. As we are used to regular " stops " like that throughout a game... it shouldn't take so long to look at a TV monitor and make a decision.

......and about ****ing time ! This has been a sore point with me and millions of fans who watch a game (especially on TV) and see "perfectly good goals " ...disallowed or not even given....because of some refereeing error. IMO.. There are few things that irk more than seeing goals disallowed / not allowed when millions of people see the true situation.. but the ref.(s) have missed it. This type of TV replay has been in many sports for decades past - at last Football will be dragged kicking and screaming into 21st century now that we have the technology to give us the correct answer. In an attempt to placate his many critics, (and just before his attempt to be re-elected as FIFA boss for yet another term), Sepp Blatter has stated that "trials will take place in the coming season giving managers / coaches the right to an " appeal against a wrong decision " to be decided by the match officials to see if the appeal is correct or not. (one appeal per half). The highly embarrasing miss in the 2010 World Cup when Frank Lampards "goal " was disallowed when it clearly crossed the line (before the German keeper retrieved it) was a prime example. The introduction of goal-line cameras has gone someway to solving that particular problem, but far more serious incidents occur in games every week that don't just rely on the ball crossing the line, or not. Saints have already been a victim of the antiquated system that presently exists when Graziano Pellé recently had a "good goal " wrongly ruled out for offside. I saw it (on TV) and so did everyone else who watched the game. Fortunately-on this occasion -it didn't affect the final result, but many times before such occurances have cost teams points and sometimes even losing the match. Let's hope that in future we can see proper results coming from the use of modern technology and not an unsighted match official. Of course it can work against us as well, but I'd prefer to see a correct decision everytime - even if it does go against us occasionally. At least the truth will prevail.

......and about ****ing time ! This has been a sore point with me and millions of fans who watch a game (especially on TV) and see "perfectly good goals " ...disallowed or not even given....because of some refereeing error. IMO.. There are few things that irk more than seeing goals disallowed / not allowed when miiions of people see the real situation and the ref.(s) have missed it. This type of TV replay has been in many sports for decades past - at last Football will be dragged kicking and screaming into 21st century now that we have the technology to give us the correct answer. In an attempt to placate his many critics, (and just before his attempt to be re-elected as FIFA boss for yet another term), Sepp Blatter has stated that "trials will take place in the coming season giving managers / coaches the right to an " appeal against a wrong decision " to be decided by the match officials to see if the appeal is correct or not. The highly embarrasing miss in the 2010 World Cup when Frank Lampards "goal " was disallowed when it clearly crossed the line (before the German keeper retrieved it) was a prime example. The introduction of goal-line cameras has gone someway to solving the problem, but far more serious incidents occur in games every week that don't just rely on the ball crossing the line, or not. Saints have already been a victim of the antiquated system that presently exists when Graziano Pellé recently had a "good goal " wrongly ruled out for offside. I saw it and so did everyone else who watched the game on TV. Fortunately-on this occasion -it didn't affect the final result, but many times before such occurances have cost teams points and sometimes even losing the match. Let's hope that in future we can see proper results coming from the use of modern technology and not an unsighted match official. Of course it can work against us as well, but I'd prefer to see a correct decision everytime - even if it does go against us occasionally. At least the truth will prevail.

my thought too, when I read that .... for all his finer qualities; vision, pin-point passing ....I must say that "mobile " is not a word that first comes to mind when talking about Rickie Lambert..... Pellé may seem a bit slow at times, but he often has 2 or 3 defenders on him and so there's not much space to be "mobile"..if he is to succeed, RK will create a formation to suit his game.

AGREED !....was never in the " Michael Svensson class ", but (like Claus L.)....DA (better J) FU than many gave him credit for.....

.......might be something that wasn't properly programmed in the first place, as I had to adjust the time zone facility in my PC when it was new. Living in Sweden (1 hour difference) my PC is adjusted so that it automatically adjusts the time difference when posting to UK (or other countries), and even changes the time from CET to BST when required.

good day for him. The " proof of the pudding " will be if he can do this on a fairly regular basis during the season. Alternatively; Yeovil may have found themselves a new striker ! Got a bit of stick from one or two names on here from day 1 after coming from Eastleigh. To be fair moving up 4 or 5 divisions in one go does take a bit of adjustment, but he DAJFU when there was a mid-season injury crisis during the Championship year, and netted a couple of goals, too. The eternal problem of a young CB who's 3rd of 4th choice (ala Garry Monk, Mike Williamson, Chris Baird) who can't get regular games with the first team, and eventually move on to become late developers.

gets my vote, too.

He's still young, but he looks very good going forward, and can backtrack when he needs to defend - being as he's a left back in the first place. Has always had good cover from fellow players like Lovren and Lallana, so if you can sign them, too....... ....OOPS !

sounds logical perhaps..... but I'm not so sure. If we think back to Rickie's debut goal v. Scotland, the later enthusiasm and his " love-in " with fellow Scouser Steven Gerrard, I would think the outcome would have been on the cards for quite a while. Pochettino's defection just probably hastened the whole thing.......

..so is that a NO ?....or

very nice:D... except Toby is Belgian ....and the song refers to Austria.....

Turkish?....do you think he even knows who " Pompey " are .. let alone about the local rivalry.... I know you think it rhymes but........

think about it......no matter how well he plays in training, there's no way that he'll get back to no.1 spot .......unless Forster makes a real c*ck-up in several games, or gets a serious injury. Surely paying £10 million for a 26 y.o. keeper, is a sign that a 34 y.o .....is on the way out. NOTED: Boruc's contract goes out next summer.