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except that the fans have actually got nothing to do with it. if i want us to have a 50,000 seat stadium the team will still play the same as they would if i wanted us to get out of this ****ing division first. we our fans, we aren't players, we aren't part of the set-up. can't we let the club get on with the football and we can get on with the being fans, and dreaming big, and having fun speculating? if portsmouth were talking about it, we may laugh at them, but if it actually happened would they care? no. and if it didn't happen would they care about us laughing at them? no.

i am leftback

haven't logged on in a while, didn't see the '125 reasons'.

so the players are relatively senior, rather than being on the fringe of the team?

Can i have a pm please? never had one before

having a laugh or serious?

Mowbray. Never again would we see the hoof to RL

The only difficulty with Camera is that people who have left, are on the outisde, will always be disgruntled in some shape or form. There are plenty of North Korean defectors who have overstated much of the regime, similarly with the former Iraqis. Definitely not questioning Camera as I don't know the chap/chappette, just trying to achieve a little bit of balance with all of this. Some good, some bad, that kind of thing.

but according to wiki he's gone to Huddersfield because they're a bigger club. Ho ho

who cares?

not subtle enough, they'll never bite.

I have absolutely no opinion on Bournemouth. I don't mind if they think we're rivals, it's cute, but I am no more excited about playing them than any other promoted team.

League of Gentlemen...

according to fb, the trip is 'too hard'.

i would LOVE a regeneration of an area like Portsmouth have done. LOVE it.

i salute you!

Even Dave Whelan, who loves Wigan, is now running the club so that they break even at least every year. What do you expect from our owners exactly?

hypo, why would supporters who have had to suffer two relegations and the near-demise of their club EVER withdraw their support because the club are successful and so they have to pay a bit more? The nature of competitive sport is such that you try to win, all other factors are secondary to this. If somebody stops supporting Saints because they don't want to pay the price that comes with success (which, actually, would be not much more than mediocrity) then they are hypothetically deluded. We supported Saints when they were at their lowest ebb, I'm sure that even in a hypothetical world we'd support them when successful.

+9999999 the 'hypothetical' situation is loaded, ie. it is more conceivable to him that this will happen rather than not. The OP already has an opinion about our regime, starting a hypothetical debate does not detract from that. I could hypothetically ask how we would all feel about our owners putting the club up for sale, thus forcing the sale of Lambert et al and the resignation of Pardew as he doesn't want to work with limited funds in League 1. But remember guys, don't start getting into arguments (or, put another way, debating my MOTIVATION for creating such a situation.)

i think the point is that SMS doesn't generate revenue except for on match-days, which will hinder profitability in the long run. Whether it's at Jacksons Farm or a reclaimed area near the stadium, we will need to have other revenue streams to be able to compete.

Me too! Incredible kit, incredible team... I cannot wait for the new season!

I'm inclined to agree with you about the profitability of it all, because I think that is what drives our entire operation now. It's what too many people on here don't realise- almost everything that the club now does in order to improve its profitability. This obviously derives from success on the pitch combined with marketing and corporate revenue. This isn't happening because Cortese is petulant or incompetent, it is because in the long run it will make the club more money.

But the hype surrounding it was nothing compared to this. The reveal may have looked good and appeared more complete, but it didn't bring as many hits to the site (something that allows for increased advertising revenue) and didn't lead to people like us having, frankly, a ridiculous debate on the merits of marketing.

You don't have to assume it, you just are.

+1. There is nothing incompetent about this marketing, it is a very common tactic and one that works.