Smirking_Saint

Is it immediately not plausible as its negative ? Like Lovrens 'lack of ambition' statement ?

Exactly, Ive heard the term 'he has a mistake in him' about 1000 times, exactly what CB hasnt ? Especially at this level Even Kompany has had the odd clanger

Regardless of outgoings (im not getting into that again) I imagine its not easy selling brand southampton right now

Ahh thats all good then I imagine the truth is somewhere between you and guan

He wasnt used properly in the same way scholes wasnt. In fact early on for x games we were unbeaten with his inclusion. Unfortunately soon after we stopped playing him through the middle and tried to include lampard, gerrard, scholes and beckham

I think him and scholes were our last WC midfielders, both wasted I look at who is coming through and worry, Im a firm believer that ganes are won in midfield. I cant see Wilshere or Henderson doing that

How did the youngsters play ? Stephens ? Isgrove ? Targett ?

Really ? I never knew this, in that case steer clear, or perhaps a loan

Everyones been largely crap for england, Scholes was largely crap for england, thats because england are largely crap

Ill wait a couple of weeks to scrutinise squad strength, pretty obvious the areas we lack right now

For me its a sad day and a bit disrespectful, been a great servant over the years who went to the WC exhausted and tactically wasted IMO

Nastasic would be good, guidetti certainly had a great season outside of England, not convinved though

I hate to give backhanded praise to Dune but Pastor is not nearly intelligent enough Im afraid

This Id be happy with, a bit of backbone, good times

I remember the comparisons between us, Everton, Spurs etc

You can when its half the first team

MLG its pretty hypocritical saying to anyone else on this forum they are hard to have a discussion with, you are genuinely relentless. As per the threads, everyone knows they happened

Id imagine he would wait until january to see how we are getting on, for me that would be sensible

Put me on ignore then DPS

Its not a stick to bash saints with you pleb, though Im not entirely sure you'll ever get it, regardless of anything that ever happens your outlook is cringingly optimistic towards the saints regardless if it changes your overall opinion. It was only a few months ago you were banging the drum over and over again about Saints being the kings of europe and the 100k seater superdome You seriously are the ying to alpines yang

And our board bent over, lubed up and let out barely a wimper

Exactly, instead they dilly dallyed about doing **** nothing between NC leaving and about a month ago. No new contracts signed yet for a y of our players. The catastrophy that was Poch, and 4 of our key players leaving. This was despite the talk from key players a few months ago asking the board to match their ambition and talk of how happy they were. Look how desperate they were to get out of the club, then there is Lovrens interview. That, to me, isnt just about leaving for money.

Lambert should've been replaced last year, but it was Osvaldo Rodriguez unfortunate. 35m + the replacement of shaw would have done it. Another striker, CB, GK maybe a winger. There would have been a couple of losses, but ultimately the side would have been competetive abd finished north of 8th, the expense would have been covered by TV rights and finishing bonuses I appreciate that breaking that top 6 is v v hard, at some point you have to try and this year should have been that time, modest expense. Spurs and Everton went through similar times

He clearly wasnt a total failure, after Scholes he was the best midfielder we have had for ages, how many games did we go unbeaten when he came into the side ? He played ok at Liverpool there, they got too reliant and he was tired at the end IMO but they played 3 cms, thats what we should have done. Not Gerrard and Henderson IMO Ive now never known an England side with such a poor midfield

We could potentially be ok with some decent replacements, I just find it hard to believe in the history of the prem we are the only club to have so many players able to play at higher levels and unable to do anything about it. Its a shame that but I feel so lucky to have witnessed it. Makes you wonder what would have happened with 1-3 decent signings