Verbal

Whatever you say, what you really think is clear enough.

Ignorant possibly, but wilful, lemon-sucking obduracy more likely: it's the verdict itself you hate but you can't bring yourself to say it. No one has said they 'only care that they have been convicted of a racist murder' - simply that a racist murder was committed, the murderers not only appeared to get away with it for years, partly through an incompetent, corrupt and 'institutionally racist' investigation, but actually enjoyed revelling in their notoriety. After all these years, the racist creeps have been put away for ending the life of a talented young black man. There is every reason to celebrate that justice finally prevailed....up to a point. There are three other suspects to deal with yet.

The best price you'll ever get on your flat - at least for a decade or so - was two years ago.

The last bit is nearer the likely outcome. Greece will certainly default and exit the euro. That's initially bad for Greece, and good for the euro - one bad debtor out of the zone with the banks bearing the default costs. And so on, if the domino effect takes down another southern European country. But Germany and France - both individually much bigger economies than Britain's, and combined FAR more powerful an alliance - will simply be at the core of a smaller, better balanced eurozone.

The judge has refused to hear their pleas of 'I didn't mean it, honest' mitigation. Brilliant!

Turn yourself in. Now would you mind if we got back to the thread?

Still no answer. Come on, at least make an effort...if you can.

How pleasing to see you sucking a lemon on this one. Your brothers-in-skin are going down.

With deaths and bombings in Istanbul. You're welcome. Now back to your brilliant logic...No answer? I thought not.

And self-confessed racist scumbag. What else was he ever going to say?

Haven't you rather skipped past the actual point I was making about the idiocy of your original post? As for Turkey, British tourists have been killed in the WEST of the country, and many people in Istanbul itself (as well as severe damage to the British consulate and an HSBC building), in the last ten years of skirmishes between the turkish military and Kurdish militants.

Pathetic. Truly pathetic.

None of which will mean the end of the euro.

You're right!!

I'm under the flightpath right now, just by Hammersmith Bridge. What should I be looking for?

Finally!

'Advice' from someone who was recently enthusiastically recommending the dumbest share buy of all, in HMV, should be taken with the tiniest pinch of salt. Besides, how on earth do you come to the conclusions (a) that the Euro is in freefall; and (b) that it's going to be too expensive to holiday in countries whose currency it is? So a bit of practical advice, based on experience: I travelled to Argentina during the time when its currency was pegged to the US$ (stunningly expensive), and again when the country defaulted on its international debts and decoupled from the dollar (stunningly cheap). During the latter, my colleagues and I ate in the finest steak house in BA, and our bill was so large that the manager gave us a free bottle of champagne. The bill for six was equivalent to £16. On that basis, Greece would be a good bet for a great and cost-effective holiday, rather than the warzones that Turkey and Egypt have become.

Watched him at freezing Craven Cottage last night. He did a lovely impression of Bennett on his debut. Still, he can only get better...

Germany is not printing Marks. This was a rumour started by a rabid advisor to Bush Junior. Germany did stockpile Marks at unification in 1989/90 but has not done so since. As long as Germany (which has just announced record low unemployment figures) and France continue to support the currency, it will survive, and will probably strengthen in the long run as the flaky bits from southern europe are peeled away by default.

I know. It's ruined my day.

Cameron will be the FOURTH Conservative leader to fail to lead the Party to an overall majority - joining the hardly stellar line-up of John Major (failed 1997), William Hague (failed 2001), Iain Duncan Smith (failed 2003), and Michael Howard (failed 2005).

True. Still, I guess they have to make hay while it lasts. It's remarkable that the Tories have not won an overall majority in Parliament since 1992 - almost twenty years ago! And even then, their overall majority of 20 or so had been whittled down to just one in 1996 after a series of defections. The chances of this happening now, in an increasingly fractious coalition, are far higher, so expect the Tories to resume their long-term existence in the political wilderness quite soon. Maybe it will eventually be a Happy, Tory-free 2012 after all.

Cost at point of sale + subsidy.

Indeed - the staggering fares cover 69% of the cost per mile on rail journeys in Britain. Contrast this with road users in the UK, who pay a mere 21% of the true per-mile cost of their journey.

If you were a turkey you'd vote for Christmas. Odd.