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Probably and i'd certainly have something to say about the Trust which died many moons ago yet he pretends it is still an entity.

That was cringe worthy. He looked like chunk out of the goonies clad head to toe in polyester - they should have thrown a match at him and let him burn. I expect he was one of Turkish's mates.

I think the forum is representative of fans, but I don't think the forum is representative of supporters.

I vote close this thread.

Get your head out of the sand. He's been trying to contact the club for 4 weeks by perfectly reasonable methods of comunication and he has been ignored. If you had been treated like this i'd say it was bang out of order and Benji has been treated disgustingly. I am different to most people, it makes me unique and not a sheep, and I tell you what I'm proud of being different to the likes of you because I can see what has happened to Nick is wrong.

It's unbelieveable how the duck shoot boys (those who need to know will get it) have the audacity to support Cortese over the way Nick Illingsworth has been treated. Zoom back a few years and Keith Legg banned all these ****s for supporting Rupert Lowe, or for having an opinion different to the "saints go wilde" agenda and they cried like babies, and now here they are showing themselves up to be nothing but slithery hypocrites. Welldone George and M1ngey for revealing to us all the sort of chaps you are.

As it goes the feeling is mutual. VFTT calls me a Nazi, yet he's the one who uses derogatory terms to describe disabled/handicapped people (and to think he's actually working in the edication sector - it beggars belief) and he is the one who tries to get people banned for expressing views he doesn't like because democracy and freedom of speech are fine so long as you say what he says. He's so full of himself that he cannot see himself for what he is.

The trust have no members, it's a non entity. We all know this and that NI lives in his own little world in this respect.

The fact it is Nick illingsworth should mean that i support the banning because i have criticised him and the trust a lot, but that is all irrelevent because i am looking past my views of Nick and the trust and what Nicola Cortese has done is wrong. I just hope that you are not banned from the club for exercising your right to freedom of speech, or perhaps you don't value this right.

Mail is owned by Markus Liebherr so there is the link. If SFC under Cortese choose to ignore you then just like with any other business you go above those ignoring you. If I had a complaint with say a supermarket and the manager didn't deal with my complaint satisfactorily I would contact his superiors. Cortese is just an employee at the end of the day and if he is doesn't deal with something to your satisfaction you can go higher than him.

Of course it's silly, but if the club do not reply to fans, then take the issue above Cortese's head. He won't like it, but it may well improve the situation if mr Liebherr is made aware of what is going on.

How many tantrums have you had so far today? How long is it until your subscription runs out? How will you cope when it does?

I have already repsonded to your question.

This is precisely what i'm suggesting. It's in Markus's interest to be informed about how his club is being run.

No, but if I was in Nick Illingsworths position I would.

Maybe this is how Italian businessmen behave. Maybe freedom of speech isn't respected so much where cortese comes from. Benito Muscolini ruled with a rod of iron.

If anyone else is ignored by the club perhaps it'd be worth trying to contact Markus Liebherr. http://www.mali-group.com/en/contact/ On the above link you can email, and there is the address and phone number if you wish to write.

Like it or not giant Oaks grow out of little accorns and Cortese is going down the same road that Lowe did.

Go by all means, but just don't talk to the Echo. Freedom of speech is banned by Cortese.

I'm not amazed at all. Nothing can stop the sun shining out of Cortese's arse with some on here. I do wonder whether all this division that Cortese is creating isn't a deliberate ploy to divide the fanbase.

Well you had better be careful if an echo reporter asks you for your thoughts as you leave the ground.

In which case does this mean fans are not allowed to comment to Echo reporters because NC might not like it? SFC seems to be turning into a dictatorship.

I've just proved that the ticket office manager views the forum. In which case he'll be be aware of Illingsworthgate. Therefore any lack of response can be construed as the club knowing about the situation and taking the stance that they are above having to tell Nick why he has had his money returned.

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