Sour Mash

The majority of English youth products aren't inferior to those over the water though. We're still consistently in the top 10 of nations and have been for many years.

All that stuff on twitter is a load of s**te.

Well I didn't use that phrase or suggest that there isn't going to be an obvious rush to get players in before the cut-off point, so I'm not too sure what your point is?

Because all the deals that have not previously been completed have to be squeezed into one remaining 24 hour period.

What has that got to do with anything?

Right, so for all your so called "facts" you can't explain why some players are signed in June, despite you saying earlier this never happens. And you can't dispute the fact that Man Utd had their two key signings playing in their first game of the season, we had to wait a month for Yoshida and Ramirez..................

No way is Targett ready to start a first team game. Play Forren left back (a left footed defender playing left back) and leave Clyne where he is best, he'll be needed to deal with Bale.

Think you need to look it up actually. Let us know how you get on.

It's not about "scaring" oppossition strikers, but having a defender that is excellent in the air to deal with those teams that pose such a threat - Hooiveld has been pretty good at that. His distribution is better than many seem to make out, so not really a "clogger" either.

Probably best leaving it off a public forum if that is the case then.

Said the same. Not too many others stand out. Scholes and Van Persie, Bale maybe?

Why does it need to be 'stickied'?

It wouldn't surprise me if Arsenal put in a bid, but I really can't see Schneiderlin going anywhere this summer.

Always hear nothing but good things about the man. Top Saints pro as well. RIP.

Not quite. Van Persie and Kagawa were bought in time to play in their first game of the season and make an impact from the start - we had to wait over a month into the season to see anything of Yoshida or Ramirez our two key signings. Oh and how come players are signed before July then?

The reason most transfer activity doesn't happen until July isn't due to contracts expiring. Man Utd did all of their key transfer activities very early last summer. Yes it probably helps that they're Man Utd, but equally the size and scale of the deals they are negotiating would be more complex than ours and would have plenty of agent intrusion.

My point is if we're trying to sign players that are hanging on for a better deal and are trying to play us off against other clubs for more money, those are the kind of players QPR would be going for and wouldn't suit us. If a player isn't buying into our ambition and ethos from the start, then surely we'd be better investing our resources elsewhere? How many times have we seen it stated on this forum that Ramirez would be much better after a full pre-season with us - surely if you're spending £12m on a player it's worth getting the timing right or you're wasting some of that money?

Not once has anyone associated with the club even suggested anything like that to be honest.

At a rough guess, another 10-20%. Would be worth it for them to complete a full pre-season as a squad. Plus, surely while these players are playing us off against other clubs, we'd be out trying to bring in other players that are actually keen to play for us? I didn't think we were a "QPR" and brought in the sort of player that moved to wherever was offering the most money.

Not saying it's simple. But I would argue if we have to spend a bit more to get a deal sorted sooner, than surely that should be worth it? How many more points might we have gained this season if we'd started with a full-strength, settled side - that'd be worth its weight in gold.

Well that then comes back to our committee's ability to sew up the right deal at the right time. If a lack of pre-season has been such a problem for the likes of Ramirez, then surely that would have been worth another £0.5-1m for the extra we'd have got out of him?

Seven Sisters is "walkable", but you're looking at a good 30mins march from there.

If we want a benchmark of the perfect way to execute a summer's transfer activity, see Man Utd before the start of this season. We've been told all year not to judge Ramirez has he didn't have a pre-season with us, exactly one of the reasons we should have such deals sewn up asap.

Keep Clyne right back, have as few player playing out of place as possible. Surely Forren must be able to put a shift in at left back if needed?

While you're right, we shouldn't get carried away by one poor performance, surely it must be a worry that we've scored one goal in our last three games? And conceded three goals at home to a team that hasn't got anything to play for and were missing two of their better players?