Sour Mash

I thought Schneiderlin was subdued, knowing he was carrying a yellow card, ideally we'd have subbed him, but have no-one even close to his quality off the bench. Agree MOTM of Cork, particularly first half, different class to everyone out there.

What's the point of them? You've coloured in one player on a black and white print, I don't get it?

He never plays 90mins anyway. Who knows, if he'd still been on the pitch he'd probably been allowed to keep taking and wasting them.

Can you start another thread with these pics, I'm trying to read back on people's views on the game.

Neither were any good today were they. Or Lambert to be honest.

You seem obsessed with little digs at Adkins. Weird.

Standing in the upper tier at QPR was no where near '50/50' was it?

Who is saying we shouldn't 'have them around'?

Think they have an end of season boat party every year to be fair to them. Plenty of other clubs to dislike more in football than West Ham.

Do you not think it's crossed the club's mind re Boruc? Is it really that exciting that Stephens has signed a new contract?

They also promoted Callum Chambers, Jack Stephens and JWP at the start of the year, how many starts have they had between them? You think we would have spent £3m+ when we were already happy with what we had in that position, I don't.

So the facts are you think we were going to spend £3m on a left back, plus decent wages when we didn't need to and were already very confident that we had a perfectly adequate left back. What a waste of mney that would have been. I've been critical of our transfer dealings in the past, but I don't think it's that f****d up, pity you think we're such a mess.

I'd take a guess at half a dozen Prem teams going for him to be honest. In my mind you don't manage for that long and for so many games at Premier League level if you're not at least half decent. Plenty of good managers haven't managed to last a fraction of his time in the top flight. Anyway, we're going round in circles and aren't going to agree, so may as well leave it there.

As I said in my above post, Buttner wasn't about extra money as such, more the way a third party made a play for additional monies at the last minute. But if you think we were going to buy a left back for £3m, plus decent wages, when we believed we had a left-back that was already comfortably good enough for the role you've got it wrong I'm afraid.

Yes, you do get some good and bad luck throughout a season, I'm not suggesting otherwise.

We couldn't source anyone we felt was good enough for the right price. If we knew Shaw was going to be good enough for a season in the Prem, there is no-way the club would have came so close to shelling out that much on a LB. The issue with Buttner wasn't purely money, but attitude. Fox started the season ahead of Shaw, so that is further proof that we weren't completely sure what we'd be getting from him. Those are the facts I'm afraid. We've been lucky he's taken to playing in the Prem so well and hasn't sustained too many lengthy injuries, as we'd have struggled otherwise.

Yeah we were going to spend £3m, plus whatever on the wages on a new left back just for the laughs. The difference to Man Utd buying and playing Van Persie is they knew he could paly very well and score goals in the Prem, it was a fact. We did not know that about Shaw. If we'd known he was going to be as good as he's been, there is no way we would have bid for Buttner, that's a fact.

Very outside possibility of top 6 if we buy three or four very good players and have luck on our side, particularly with injuries to key players. Top 4 - no chance.

Loads of managers haven't won a trophy or been given a job in one of the top 6 clubs, doesn't meant that none of them have been a success. Off the top of my head I'd guess that there have only been 3 or 4 managers to have managed more games in the Prem than Allardyce - he must be doing something right then.

we have been lucky with Shaw. No-one could know how he would react to playing regularly in the Premier League. We tried to buy another left back during pre-season.

Why is that your fear?

What would 2-3 good additions look like? Examples of the sort of players?

A believer in what? Not sure what the question is. "if we make the right additions we can push into the top 6 and maybe top 4 next season" every club in the Prem could say that - all depends on what you consider out "right addition" requirements are?

Exactly. Plus what a glory hunter, should be supporting his local side, not a big team thousands of miles away.

Why are West Ham or Newcastle not considered half decent football clubs? How many English managers get jobs at any of the top 6 clubs these days? He doesn't play the nicest of football, but he's been a pretty successful manager throughout his career.